Originally Posted by Jordan

so did Pat Collins. oh! I never told you about the composition camp I went to, did I?

there were 6 pros there, some I didn't know, but there were three I did know : Mike Malone, Dave McMurdo, and Pat Collins. basically, there were only 12 students, so it was 2 people to a pro, and the other guy in my group left to go re-write his piece. so, I had 4 hours alone with Pat Collins, talking about composition. it was awesome. I learned so much.