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Old Feb 24 2008, 8:34 AM
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First off, I don't really understand OP's question, and second from what I deduce from it it's pretty pointless. I can't understand why it's so popular to engage in "CAGE IS AN IDIOT" "NO HE'S NOT, MOZART IS." "LOL BEETHOVEN PEES ON EVERYONE!!!!!" "VERDI CAN BEAT THEM ALL IN A WRESTLING MATCH!" nonsense. I suppose it's like when children fight over whether Chuck Norris could really beat up Bruce Lee or whatever. Come on.

As for the question, to me composers aren't the ones doing nonsense. To me the worst reputable peoples are those who shove a Mozart string quartet in between Avant Garde(istic?) music so people will go to the concert.

Or shoving 2 Beethoven pieces before something modern, again, so people will go. That shit drives me insane.

I mean I have nothing against Mr. Beethoven or Mozart (other than they bore me to death generally), but their popularity makes me want to punch people. It's not just them really, but they stand out as monoliths that you're supposed to compete with in terms of attention when it comes to this type (...classical music?) of music, and that just don't happen.

But I'm not a fan of living in the past. Schoenberg should be put in a museum just like Mozart or Beethoven, but the difference being that I don't see Schoenberg's music, as influential as it may be, asphyxiating everyone with the weight of preference. Preference which has absolutely nothing to do with the work itself, but rather tradition, culture and mental conditioning.

If Mozart wrote the music TODAY he'd be called a silly bitch for doing style imitations and go nowhere compared to what his music means now to a lot of people, and simply put it is the case of many other composers. The things they wrote are fossils of different eras which remain up to now, most of the times in dubious authenticity (Ie, Bach.) when you go past a certain date.

It shouldn't be the case that to me the best idea would be to burn the museums (futurism!), so to speak, so that at least there's a chance to appreciate what's going on in the present. Shake things up a little, get rid of so much cultural and traditional baggage that buries modern art so deep that a lot of people never even know it exists beyond what they hear from others that it sounds "terrible", ETC ETC.

In fact it's been the case for me that inviting people to a concert with contemporary and otherwise modern pieces has been usually a frustrating experience. It's like people were afraid to hear a single note before actually even listening to it at all. Anyone who has organized a concert knows to just bite the bullet when it comes to attendance, even when there is an audience for this type of music.

Then there's the people who say the reason modern music never "caught on" with the mainstream is because traditional western harmony math and junk is some sort of universal principle. That's insane, and worse are those who say that the avant-garde failed when it became a museum piece. Lots of talk, not a lot of music to back it up in my opinion.

Anyways, roar, etc. I'm done.
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