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Originally Posted by Fredrik
Thanks Romanticist,
Finally someone that cares about facts... 
The Mahler society in Vienna will assist us in sorting out the details!
Usually, when I start an investigation like the one I'm actually going to start, the administrators of where the thread is will delete the evidences! Just wait and see! (Ironic lol!)
Meaning that... when I'm about to get the real final facts, the page you are reading right now will be deleted just wait and see everybody!!
I want to add that I have listened a lot to Mahler's symphonies to know that some of the episodes in Schosta's symphonies are very Mahlerian indeed...!
Here is a little cold snack before the hot dishes arrive!
an episode from the famous Dmitrij Schostakowitsch biography by Solomon Volkow:
"Schostakowitsch hatte die ausssterbende Form der Symphonie wiederbelebt; für ihn war sie die ideale Form, Gefühle und Gedanken, die ihn bewegten, zum Ausdruck zu bringen. In der Fünften verarbeitete er auch die Einflüsse der Komponisten Strawinskij, Prokovfjew und vor allem Gustav Mahlers, um zu seinem eigenen, unnachahmlichen, individuellen Stil zu gelangen."
from "Die Memoiren des Dmitrij Schostakowitsch" - Every word in this biography was approved by the composer who also wrote his own signature in it! Amazon here.
Solomon Volkow |
Hi Mahler and Schosta diggers!
Here is snack nr 2 from the famous Dmitrij Schostakovich biography, approved and signed by Dmitrij himself!
"Heute lässt mich Prokofjews Musik ziemlich kühl. Ich höre seine Werke ohne sonderliches Vergnügen. Am besten gefällt mir wohl seine Oper "Der Spieler", obwohl auch sie viele uberflüssige effektvolle Äußerlichkeiten enthält. In seinen Opern bringt Prokofjew häufig das Sujet dem Effekt zum Opfer. Sie können das im "Feurigen Engel" und "Krieg und Frieden" feststellen. Man hört und bleibt unberrührt. So empfinde ich es heute.
Früher was es anders. Aber das ist lange her. Und dann drängte meine Begeisterung fur Mahler selbst Strawinskij in den Hintergrund, erst recht natürlich Prokofjew. Iwan Sollertinskij hat mir nachdrücklich klargemacht: Mahler und Prokofjew sind unvereinbar."
For those who have difficulty understanding Dimitrij Schostakovich's own words speaking german: (here short english ver)
DIMITRIJ SCHOSTAKOVICH speaking:
"Today! For me, the music of Prokoview actually leaves me quite indifferent. I don't listen to his music with much appreciation! Even though his Opera "The Player" even though it contains a lot of extravagant materials!" He often sacrifices the theme in his operas by emphasizing on the effects! You can hear that in the "Fire Angel" and in "War and Peace". When I hear it, I'm just feel indifferent...! That's how I feel today! Earlier in my life, it was different... But, that was a long time ago! Those were the days when, in my big admiration for Mahler, sometimes even would push Stravinsky himself in the background!