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Unless I'm misreading something or misunderstanding something, in both which cases, honestly explain to me. Cause I've been to the IMSLP forums plenty of times, and this is what I saw!
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You must have gone there and read nothing except the people who registered AFTER imslp went down and UE who just to shout conspiracy.
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Maintaining IMSLP was already difficult for the administration (especially the founder himself, being a masters student and thus having loads of other obligations), and it just became exponentially more difficult after UE sent its second C&D letter. After having read every single document relevant to the accusations of UE, I can say that their arguments are highly fallacious, and their threats are quite absurd, without mentioning their unbelievably rude and cynical towards IMSLP and, indirectly, the rest of the open source community as well.
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That isn't really true either. Leaving the site up meant that IMSLP was still open for legal action (we were never actually sued). But if we left it up, there is a higher possibility that we would be (regardless of the fallacious arguments).
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As for the "poor little IMSLP was shut down by giant evil cooperation", I think that's more evident in UE's writings than those of the IMSLP administration.
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You have to remember, six months to a year prior to the first C&D letter, an IMSLP Admin (in the publishing business), received word via official publishing groups newsletter stating that European Publishers need to mass sue companies such as IMSLP so as to improve there profits, regardless of copyright.
The article on UE's website also says the following:
"Pretty strong stuff indeed for a story of a website which ran out of money …" Truth is, IMSLP didn't run out of money if you excuse the fact that UE demanded 200,000 Euros.
"A third administrator writes “We deleted Lucian Garban's reduction of the Ravel Piano Concerto (still copyright in Canada) no less than four times!” (same source) – which shows how powerless they were to prevent copyright violations."On the contrary it shows how attentive we are to copyright, not to mention alert.
"At the end of the day the administrators could not control the material being uploaded to their website, and admitted themselves (with a category labelled “non-public domain composers”) that they could not warrant for the legality of the music included."This is a pure and utter lie. the category "non-public domain composers" is for CC works published by the composers them selves or the estate of a dead composer. Anything else is removed. This isn't just a misunderstanding on UE's part. It is a lie.
Fact:
Universal Edition Musikverlag - News - Aufstieg und Fall des IMSLP - Aufstieg und Fall des International Music Score Library Projects is propaganda equal to that of Nazi Germany, Stalin and the Bush Administration. (not comparing content).
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As for IMSLP being down for the moment, imagine this situation: it's raining, and you want to go across a river which is far away from home, and you walk all the way to the river, only to find it's almost impossible to cross because of the rain, it's easier to just go back home for a while, until the rain is over, or until you can find something to help you cross the river, than to wait by the river still, hoping the rain will stop or that you will find something to cross the river with. That doesn't mean you've always wanted to go back home, and you waited for an opportunity to do so, but because it serves the final goal far better than staying by the river.
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Actually, we are building a stronger boat to get across.
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(not me, I can't do much right now, it's up to the admins)
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You are doing a lot. Your post is doing a lot.
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It certainly was easier to shut down the site, but not because of UE threats, but because of the additional burden!
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The only additional burden was pending threats from other publishers and UE.
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i. All the world is accusing UE for the closure of IMSLP which is not exactly the case. Is it?
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Actually it is most European publishers, UE was just the first to strike.
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ii. Various other bullshit parties, like that Thor guy and the pirate Sweddish party, came and ATTACHED themselves onto the whole issue, and tried to battle copyright laws??!?!?! WTF?!?!?! And either way I do feel that copyright laws need changing and not having right expire 50 ot 70 years after the death of the composer, but that ridiculous guy was something else! Not to mention that he was corresponding to UE, who could very well have had mistaken him as a part of IMSLP, which is faulty!
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We continuously stated he is not connected to IMSLP in anyway. And they DID try and suggest he was affiliated regardless of whether we told them otherwise.
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This is NOT the right moment to have the talk about copyright laws. I'm all for the change, enen being a composer myself, but not now. Bring IMSLP back, shut everyone's mouth and then let the talks begun. I promise to be there, as I am now, and voice my mind (as I'm doing now).
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There is no problem in arguing copyright laws, just don't directly connect it with IMSLP. I can't stand copyright after death. I don't mind saying it and I'd defend it.
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BTW, I heard from some idiot that there were ulterior motives, like having the library for yourselves, etc, but this is SO absurd and awful that I can't stand even thinking about it! That guy IS an idiot!
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Dear god... That's all I can say.
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And of course the human race is greedy as hell, especially the younger generations, what did you expect.
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you know, Web 2.0 is pretty much because of youngerish generations.
If you want answers, start reading from
IMSLPForums.org :: View topic - The return of IMSLP
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