You guys obviously don't listen to Steely Dan.
Go youtube 'em. Check out "Peg" or "Jack of Speed" or "Godwhacker" or "Josie" or "Hey Nineteen" or "Kid Charlemagne."
It's pop for smart people. That's what you guys are, right? Smart people?
THAT's good pop, and you can only argue that by saying "it's not pop at all," in which case I'd reply with "That's what she said."
~Kal