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Old May 14 2008, 7:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LDunn View Post
This is, possibly, a harsh, rather contrived boundary, but it does apply largely I would argue. Just like Tracey Emin's bed - your own un-made bed in the morning is not a piece of art, but hers is, because it was expressing a set of ideas to others through being placed in a certain context.
I see your point, but I make my bed every morning with the intention that it looks pleasing to the eye. I tidy my room so that it looks better. That is an expression so to speak of, but I do not make the claim to be an artist. I wash the dishes so they may look nice and clean, but is this art? I can only assume that the reason for calling washing the dishes art, would be to make a false claim to artistry. Simply put, if we lower artistic standards anyone can be an artist. John Cage in his own words; 'But if this is music, (referring to noise) then I could write it as well as you' (Must have been quoting a friend of his). That is entirely the point, music can't be written by just anybody, which is why it is an artistic expression. A sculpture or a painting cannot be produced by just anybody, which is why it is art. Art and music are abilities, and if you concede that noise is music or washing the dishes art, then art and music no longer need ability, and in my opinion this is an offensive notion to the people who actually spend their lives perfecting their abilities. It's the same as me claiming to be a novelist, by submitting a blank book (4'33''), or just writing scrambled jumbled nonsense (noise). To be honest, If I tried to claim that I was a novelist in this way, I would be laughed at. Frankly, I think its dishonest.

I am awaiting the first school report that says, 'he shows much artistic promise; yesterday he scribbled his name on a urinal'.