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Old May 17 2008, 8:10 PM
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I don't care about how something was written (unless that is part of the artistic concept). I don't care about talent or skill. I care about the music.
I definitely care about the music too, but thankfully for me the music I enjoy the most took the most talent to write imo!

Robin I don't understand your lack of patience for an attitude that simply disagrees with you. Whether you like it or not, there are a hell of a lot of people who literally laugh at this kind of thing, and although I used to be one of them, I now find this kind of work depressing rather than hilarious.

If Cage has taught you to be open minded, you go about it in a very odd way - patronising anybody with a differing musical opinion. This is one of the essential problems with this kind of 'modern composition'. It's supposed to be about challenging our attitudes towards art, and tearing it free from the stronghold of the elite. Yet, as soon as somebody challenges Cage - which is essentially just somebody challenging the perceptions of art - suddenly the people supposedly advocating freedom of artistic expression act like they've got a rat up their ass. I'm worried by some of the attitudes modern artists have towards 'tried and true' art.
Most modern artists don't even practice what they preach, they've fooled themselves into thinking in a way that from my point of view is often ridiculous.
Maybe Cage did take years to come up with 4'33'' but despite this he simply wrote nothing. It is not the process but the result. If the result is nothing, then you have essentially failed to achieve anything that could not have been done by every single human being with the ability to write 'tacet' on the planet. Regardless of whether you see metaphor upon metaphor, you should simply remember the story of the naked emporer. If 4'33'' had been written by... my grandad, would you, or anybody have given it the time of day?

Please remember that I'm not trying to provoke a huge Cage vs Da Vinci war!!!, rather an honest discussion.