18 pages?
Jesus!
Let's examine one thing:
Have you ever seen anyone who is respected to go out and bash on anything? I'm sorry but I highly respect SSC, Gardener, QC, Robin, et al and I've never seen them make a thread like "let's piss on baroque", or anything to any extend about bashing.
I just don't get it.
If you like something you want to share the world, you want to let everyone know, educate, share the experience. when you don't like/understand something, why the fuck say it and make an 18 page long thread?
Alex, you've seen my opinion about Cage in vi.
No reason to repeat things. And you've conducted a wondeful debate and discussion here.
(not unlike vi really!
) cheers for that!