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Originally Posted by jujimufu
I haven't EVER seen 15vb, firstly because the term itself is wrong (for two octaves, you use 15ma, which comes from the Italian term "quindicesima", which means "at the 15th", or in practical terms, "two octaves above". If you said "15vb", that would be equal to saying "quindicesava bassa", which doesn't really exist (a mix of "quindicesima" and "ottava bassa" - I guess if it meant something, it would be "two octaves above the octave below" :S ). So it is important to understand how abbreviations and terms came to be what they are, to avoid mistakes like this.
In any case, I haven't seen any kind of "2 octaves below" sign in any piece I've seen so far, not even in Stockhausen's Klavierstucke or Xenakis' "Evryali". There is not practical application for a sign like this.
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I should have said 15mb, not 15vb. My mistake. I had it mixed up as the one octave below symbol is 8vb. This symbol very much does exist as I found it on Wikipedia (saying that it means to play two octaves below what is written) and in Sibelius' list of symbols. I don't really understand why it would be so easy to find in these places if it didn't have a practical application. Of course, I'm obviously no expert with this symbol, just a bit confused as to why there seems to be conflicting information so far in this thread.