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Originally Posted by Dan Gilbert
I'm going to guess that he is going to start listing off concepts in Jazz that I haven't heard of. But let's keep in mind that this is doesn't prove anything
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Actually, it does. It proves that you don't know enough about jazz to argue that it isn't complex, and so you don't know about the complexity involved in the genre.
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my claim is that Jazz musicians would have us believe that there are ideas of extreme complexity which they are processing at any moment when playing a tune,
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Are you saying that every classical tune is incredibly complex?
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but I would argue that most of Jazz is just deducing the mode, picking a scale, and mimicking motifs from either the tune or from others' solos.
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I would argue that a great deal of classical music is also based off of scales and motifs.