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Old Feb 24 2008, 1:26 PM

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First of all i'll tell you how i met his music. i've been wandering in oslo, jobless, happy, alone and turned out to find myself in youth center, and there played music. i couldn't leave untill it stopped, so i sat down on the stool and listned.i didn't dear to ask what was playing...the next or some other day i went to music shop saw an light blue cover album, read fur alina and arvo part on the cover. i put it on and that was it - spiegel im spiegel. so, it's the composition that changed my life. i think it's the most truly beautiful music i ever heard.though i very seldomly, always never,like to talk of ''the most'' stuff. from that encounter, i understood that true musical experience must be like that, out of nowhere, having no idea what to expect. this may happen very rare in a man's life time. it may never happen. so my question - do you think music can be the source of truth? i, myself, listen very little to music. last time i heard spiegel im spiegel was maybe half of a year back. i think it's too strong to listen it too often.
every time i take a chance to do it, i am left with question-should i do something to stay faithful and true to this music?and-is there anything one can do?and, if not, then i think that i miss the music.that i, somehow, betray it.there are some of my friends who think that's spiegel im spiegel is just beautiful music, a relaxation procedure...i conclude that they do not understand it.to me arvo part's music is quite paradoxical.he's deeply religious composer. yet, his "fratres" to me is a deeply erotic music. passionate. well, of course, eros means getting to know, to understand, so maybe i'm not too perverse about thinking it erotic.
i thought is there any music that thinks 'xenia' - love for strangers. and, yes, i think fratres does that as well, because of its nakedness,passion and eros - going beyond the realm of known. so, to summarize, i think arvo part is the composer of love, his music thinks love. that's where it fails/supercedes "aesthetics". in this case truths of particular music somehow says the truths destined for love.
Interesting thoughts,

its cool that spiegel im spiegel has such an effect on you,

its such a tranquill calm peice sometimes I feel like I cant touch it.....
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Old Feb 24 2008, 3:33 PM

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its such a tranquill calm peice sometimes I feel like I cant touch it.....
you know, i and my friend used to have some king of a joke, regarding arts,
we'd say that music is the greatest and most transcendental of them all, because you can't piss on music
you can on paintings, books, but not on sound
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you know, i and my friend used to have some king of a joke, regarding arts,
we'd say that music is the greatest and most transcendental of them all, because you can't piss on music
you can on paintings, books, but not on sound
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thats not entirely what I meant but oh well........

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Old Mar 10 2008, 9:13 PM

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i guess, just taking an extra angle
to me it comes like this - i can feel love and gentleness to anything around me at the time of listening to spiegel - when i listened to it during the breaks at my job, i would just watch this christmas tree outside the workshop and it would seem that the whole beauty of this fragile life just is in there, in this tree.
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and then BUMMER you are back to work......

right?
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Old Mar 29 2008, 11:29 AM

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...and then i would make another roll tube tobacco and take a listen to white stripes 'blue orchid' just to know that fragile moments is meant to be 'moments' , and other things in life need your muscle and, well, mechanics
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he he,

Blue Orchid, pretty cool guitar riff
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especially when you play it 4 a.m. 500+ watts in a block house, and all your neighbours may listen to it, ah, it feels good to do a good thing
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Have you made a decision yet about getting the Paul Hillier Arvo Pärt book? Highly recommended. Some excerpts:

http://books.google.com.au/books?hl=...ver&source=web

Skip down to p.87 for the tintinnabuli rave. (N.B.: in no way related to Belgian cartoons, Rin ... or risqué Parisian choreography )
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Old Mar 29 2008, 6:20 PM

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Well I plan to get the book when I get some more money!
thanks for the excerpts

here is a clip of 24 preludes to a fugue
YouTube - Arvo Pärt : 24 Preludes for a Fugue (5, 6, 7 of 29)
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although the "guitar" part doesnt make sense really its rather random the other 2 parts are splendid,

Sarah Was ninety Years Old is played in the begining and after the "guitar" part he plays alina and describes it, I really like that part where he describes "Every blade of grass has the status of a flower" amazing perspective on his music.
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