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Old Nov 13 2007, 10:00 AM

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Bagatelle No. 1

Just a light little bright piece.

I wrote down a theme, but wasn't quite sure what to do with it...
Then I saw Berlioz's sonatina and though it was a pretty good idea, and my first sonatina was born!

Hope you like it!


(I just want to make sure, in bar 8 I use a dotted crotchet between beats 2 and 3. Does this count as obscuring the beat, or can I claim syncopation?)
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Old Nov 14 2007, 9:08 PM

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Hehe! Cute theme!

Try to add some development if you wish, or a second theme, but overall it's very pleasant.


I ought to say, though, that although I call mine sonatinas they don't really follow sonata form, so meh...

By the way, I have composed earlier ones besides #3 if you'd like to hear them, Paginani:

Sonatina #2
Sonatina #1

(#2 is my favourite of the three for now)
(#1 kinda sucks in its exaggerated repetition... I was a very very very tender n00b at the time... )
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Old Nov 14 2007, 11:53 PM

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A fine little piece. Quite smooth and enjoyable.

The name "bagatelle" could be used for such a piece to avoid confronting the dreaded sonata form - Beethoven wrote some very charming bagatelles for piano.
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Old Nov 15 2007, 6:24 AM

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Bagatelle? sounds like something you can eat... I will keep it in mind, thanks!

I wrote this as a scaled down version of sonata form, but it does get very confusing, bagatelle would clear that up a bit.

Thanks for the reviews!
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Old Nov 15 2007, 6:33 PM

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I second the suggestion to re-title it.

Some parts of this were really effective, others not so much. Personally, I'd like to see a bit more movement right at the beginning, but it works fine as is.

Measures 11-12 have a stop-start feel that I find disconcerting - in particular, I feel like the A in m.11 really wants to be off the beat.

There's a similar jarring effect in m.14-15, for different reasons. Changing the number of voices at any point brings emphasis to any new voices or lost voices - and in this case, going to two-note chords in the left hand puts too much emphasis on the left hand. And in 15-16 (and elsewhere in the piece), watch for parallel octaves. In 15, moving the right hand does not mask the very obvious parallel octaves, and you still get a very hollow sound.

Measures 22-27: I'm not sure what the intention here is - seems almost randomly thrown in?

Measure 28-end: MUCH better! Though m.41 has the same possibly unintended emphasis on the left hand... I especially like the progression in m.37-40, starting with the deceptive cadence, though I would consider moving it faster. (Quarter notes instead of half notes?)

Just one other issue: in m.51, the IV is played as an open 5th, which ends up sounding out of place. When writing a chord, while it is true that doubling the 3rd degree is frowned upon by theorists, the converse is not true. I would much rather omit the 5th than the 3rd in a chord. Of course, you could (and perhaps should) consider using a fuller texture at the end of the piece?
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Old Nov 16 2007, 3:43 AM

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Thanks, will keep it in mind!
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Old Nov 17 2007, 2:21 AM

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wow, delightful! very very nice!
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Old Nov 26 2007, 6:23 AM

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ok

your work is ok.thats it.i didnt get the meaning of bagatelle..
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Old Dec 25 2007, 5:05 PM

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Old Dec 25 2007, 6:59 PM

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Very nice! However, I have a suggestion. Your melodic progression (well, its up and personal for everyone, just my thoughts), in M21, why dont you bring up the A an Octave higher? That would sound more pleasing to the ear, and well, more melodic (thats what I think, haha).

However If you want (or like) to tease ears then well. =) And you have a very good theme!

This piece is quite hymn like in its left accompaniment. (sorry for my weird terminology, haha)
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