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Old Mar 26 2008, 9:43 AM

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If you want to run a useful music production studio, a laptop is not a good idea. Especially not if you just want to buy an external hard drive to hold the samples - stupid idea.

Buy yourself a desktop computer powerful enough to run everything (lots of RAM) and lots of hard drive space. If you have a strange need to use a laptop, then don't be thinking about huge libraries and powerful DAWs; it's just impractical.
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Old Mar 26 2008, 9:51 AM

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If you want to run a useful music production studio, a laptop is not a good idea. Especially not if you just want to buy an external hard drive to hold the samples - stupid idea.

Buy yourself a desktop computer powerful enough to run everything (lots of RAM) and lots of hard drive space. If you have a strange need to use a laptop, then don't be thinking about huge libraries and powerful DAWs; it's just impractical.
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Old Mar 26 2008, 11:22 AM

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A few things before I go on:

1. How old are you?
2. Where do you live? (country)
3. How come money is not important?

Because the above 3 questions, at the moment have precise answers, assumptions from my behalf but still, I'm waiting for you to answer me:

1. Bellow 18
2. Russia
3. Because I don't intend to buy them legally, but either download them, or get them for cheap from someone who knows someone who has them. The plain fact that you are irrisponsible enough to want libraries that are above 100 GB when at the moment you only have 8 GB free, is enough to tell me that you are not thinking straight at this matter!

If the above is the case, I'm sorry I simply can't go on. I simply won't be a part of this.

Marius is a highly respected member here, and the official tech support. He doesn't need to try something out in order to see if it works, or not. Nor do I.

So try to answer the above 3 questions, and mainly the 3rd, I apologise for the somewhat country-related post I made, but it's necessary I feel to explain my position and then point us to what budget you have. Explain to us what you want to do, because frankly I find that more than just orchestral libraries are needed (film, computer games? Jingles? pop songs?) and then come back and ask for proper advice...

EDIT: Exeliksis is a live recording, as mentioned in the info of the track next to the play button in my website. Doubt any sample library can make that recording.
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Old Mar 26 2008, 1:09 PM

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A few things before I go on:

1. How old are you?
2. Where do you live? (country)
3. How come money is not important?

Because the above 3 questions, at the moment have precise answers, assumptions from my behalf but still, I'm waiting for you to answer me:

1. Bellow 18
2. Russia
3. Because I don't intend to buy them legally, but either download them, or get them for cheap from someone who knows someone who has them. The plain fact that you are irrisponsible enough to want libraries that are above 100 GB when at the moment you only have 8 GB free, is enough to tell me that you are not thinking straight at this matter!

If the above is the case, I'm sorry I simply can't go on. I simply won't be a part of this.

Marius is a highly respected member here, and the official tech support. He doesn't need to try something out in order to see if it works, or not. Nor do I.

So try to answer the above 3 questions, and mainly the 3rd, I apologise for the somewhat country-related post I made, but it's necessary I feel to explain my position and then point us to what budget you have. Explain to us what you want to do, because frankly I find that more than just orchestral libraries are needed (film, computer games? Jingles? pop songs?) and then come back and ask for proper advice...

EDIT: Exeliksis is a live recording, as mentioned in the info of the track next to the play button in my website. Doubt any sample library can make that recording.
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Old Mar 26 2008, 2:13 PM

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A few things before I go on:

1. How old are you?
2. Where do you live? (country)
3. How come money is not important?

Because the above 3 questions, at the moment have precise answers, assumptions from my behalf but still, I'm waiting for you to answer me:

1. Bellow 18
2. Russia
3. Because I don't intend to buy them legally, but either download them, or get them for cheap from someone who knows someone who has them. The plain fact that you are irrisponsible enough to want libraries that are above 100 GB when at the moment you only have 8 GB free, is enough to tell me that you are not thinking straight at this matter!

If the above is the case, I'm sorry I simply can't go on. I simply won't be a part of this.

Marius is a highly respected member here, and the official tech support. He doesn't need to try something out in order to see if it works, or not. Nor do I.

So try to answer the above 3 questions, and mainly the 3rd, I apologise for the somewhat country-related post I made, but it's necessary I feel to explain my position and then point us to what budget you have. Explain to us what you want to do, because frankly I find that more than just orchestral libraries are needed (film, computer games? Jingles? pop songs?) and then come back and ask for proper advice...

EDIT: Exeliksis is a live recording, as mentioned in the info of the track next to the play button in my website. Doubt any sample library can make that recording.


ALRIGHT!
u fail at all the questions


1. 19 *everyone's shocked*
2. no not Russia, i wish, .,.,it's United Arab Emirates,Dubai,young country so they still don't got a lot of stuff here.
3. hmm,,, well money is not a problem for as long as I'm buying something for music, you know what i mean?(i make flash games if u wonder, so i thought why not make Games and Music?)

ANYWAY i thank you all for your help,
now I'm waiting for my EWQLSO Platinum Bundle.

it's all I need right now,
I'll just see whats next, later

*1000gb hard drive
*Maybe new Laptop
*More softwares later

simple.


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Old Mar 26 2008, 8:07 PM

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The mixup in countries explains a lot!

Now, listen.

Latpops usually get 5400 rpm hard disks, inside, which is highly insuficient for samples. Samples stream real-time from hard disks and a slow disk will create problems. A firewire external disk might be better, but still far from ideal.

Your laptop, which has 8 GB empty space in its hard disk, sounds to be... old.

Samples alone, won't do you any good. You need a sequencer, at best, or even a notation program (like Finale or sibelius) at worst.

Platinum is a highly sophisticated library, with top sound, as long as you can hear it! A crappy soundcard from a laptop, and no decent monitors will give you NO CLUE as to how Platinum sounds. I bet that you won't be able to hear the difference between Gold and Platinum. Unless you do have good monitors and a soundcard that DOES go up to 24-bit and 96 Khz.

:-/

And you actually said that the buy one get one free deal would fail.

So, if you have ordered already Platinum, as you seem to mention above, it means:

A. you spent $1125 on something which for you, chances are (not 100% sure) sounds the same as something worth $590 (Gold)
B. You didn't take advantage of the BOGOF offer (since you said it would fail, and you don't mention anything about buying anything else), which could get you the choirs for free...

You might want to work on your patience a little... That is IF you have already ordered.

A better plan, instead of asking what is the best of the best (to which you didn't listen anyway as it appears), would be to ask for some advice: "I have x$ what would you advice me to do, since I want to do music of THAT or THIS style"...

But anyways...
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Old Mar 27 2008, 5:46 AM

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I use laptops to compose, and believe me, you don't want to use laptops for that matter. I can't even DFD properly, and all the samples are forced to be loaded into RAM, which gives me space for only a few instruments to work with. Therefore, my first buy would be a high-end computer. With 4GB of RAM, lots of harddisk space (2 harddisks), a good cooler, and a great graphics card. Of course, a professional soundcard and studio monitors are musts.

Then for software, I'd go with all the East West products(except their pianos, which is a pain in the ass when loading because of their gigantic size). Then Project SAM, Cubase 4, VSL (I want the solos), truepianos...

That's what I can think of right now.

EDITY: Next, it's time too revamp my room into a soundproof recording studio, with state of the art recording equipment, and a grand piano inside. Consequently, I will need a big cinema screen for film composing. Along with that goes a mixer, and a new keyboard.
After all that's done, it's time to hire my own orchestra, and my own brass band, and my own jazz quartet..

*dreams on*
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Old Mar 27 2008, 1:36 PM

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i'd buy the same stuff i already have, bigger isn't necissarly better, in fact, the bigger the software, the more time it often consumes to get it to sound right (EWQLSO sounds good out of the box, but still, making hybrid productions with it takes forever to sound right).

next to the software, i'd buy another 22" widescreen tft, i'd get a surround setup of genelec 1030s. i'd get more hdd space, which obviously you can't get enough of. i'm already set with the maximum ram (3gb) for xp-32bit to support, without messing with the system (=messing with stability).
hmm... oh yeah, i'd also get a nice protools hd setup and get rid of the latency hassle.


some neumanns, gefells and schoeps would be nice..



but then again, i'll do the job without this stuff fine.
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Old Mar 27 2008, 2:31 PM

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next to the software, i'd buy another 22" widescreen tft
Yes!

It's funny, but a good, big screen is so much more important to me for my music stuff than sound hard- and software. Actually, I've been working with mono sound for years now, and never missed anything Whereas I definitely couldn't work without an external screen to my laptop (freaking huge finale scores ). But then, I never needed sample libraries and stuff, I (almost) never listen to music on my computer, and if I have to hear something in good quality, I just burn a CD
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Actually, I've been working with mono sound for years now, and never missed anything
you're missing out on some good stuff..
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