Blue Sky Jazz Op.85

Originally Posted by blm22

...I don't know how I would add more movement?

It's kind of hard to explain, and it's an understanding that comes with experience. Not necessarily movement, but motion...forward energy. Changes in dynamics, rhythms, voicing, density, tessitura (register/range), texture, orchestration, colour, what-have-you can all contribute to some sort of positive motion.

In the case of 'Blue Sky Jazz' you have a triadic voicing which doesn't seem to change much; there's also not a lot of contrapuntal motion - it's largely isorhythmic, voiced in thirds through the whole section. Break it up a bit. Expand the harmonic language; texturally - voice across sections more. It's a process of experimentation...



Jazz-wise, who do you listen to ?

Originally Posted by robinjessome

It's kind of hard to explain, and it's an understanding that comes with experience. Not necessarily movement, but motion...forward energy. Changes in dynamics, rhythms, voicing, density, tessitura (register/range), texture, orchestration, colour, what-have-you can all contribute to some sort of positive motion.

In the case of 'Blue Sky Jazz' you have a triadic voicing which doesn't seem to change much; there's also not a lot of contrapuntal motion - it's largely isorhythmic, voiced in thirds through the whole section. Break it up a bit. Expand the harmonic language; texturally - voice across sections more. It's a process of experimentation...



Jazz-wise, who do you listen to ?

Oh ok I'll try, let's see jazz-wise, mainly things we play in jazz band, um rainbow-connection,Children of sanchez, city dock, and moroco.

Originally Posted by blm22

Oh ok I'll try, let's see jazz-wise, mainly things we play in jazz band, um rainbow-connection,Children of sanchez, city dock, and moroco.

Rainbow Connection....as sung by Kermit The Frog? And, as great as Chuck Mangione is, it's probably time for you to start listening to more stuff.

Check out larger ensemble stuff from cats like Duke Ellington, Gil Evans (Evans' collaborations with Miles are astounding), Count Basie, Woody Herman, Stan Kenton... for a more orchestral but intensely hip sound check out Maria Schneider. Also anything by Miles, Monk, Mingus, Coltrane, Wayne Shorter...

With more listening experience you'll start to pick up on what you like; what works; what doesn't work... and (important) why.

Let me know if you want more detailed suggestions or some stuff to listen to.

YouTube - the rainbow connection

Originally Posted by robinjessome

Rainbow Connection....as sung by Kermit The Frog? And, as great as Chuck Mangione is, it's probably time for you to start listening to more stuff.

Check out larger ensemble stuff from cats like Duke Ellington, Gil Evans (Evans' collaborations with Miles are astounding), Count Basie, Woody Herman, Stan Kenton... for a more orchestral but intensely hip sound check out Maria Schneider. Also anything by Miles, Monk, Mingus, Coltrane, Wayne Shorter...

With more listening experience you'll start to pick up on what you like; what works; what doesn't work... and (important) why.

Let me know if you want more detailed suggestions or some stuff to listen to.

yeah as sung by kermit lol , hmm, I google there names or see if there are on jwpepper.com, thnx for your help, i'll start working and researching and send you something.

Solos are good, because they let our ear hear something different. Also, your groove doesn't change up all that much. Give us some variation. So, perhaps the trombone sings a little, and then maybe the clarinet cuts the trombone off, then maybe they fight a little back and forth. The two instruments make it interesting to listen to, because suddenly it's not the full sound of all the instruments, but only one sound. Then another, and a call and response--especially with very different instruments--is yet another thing, before we go back into the familiarity of the main part.

Many jazz songs will play for a while, focusing on the main melody and groove, then the sax takes over. The piano provides some chords, the drum a basic rhythm, but mostly, it's about the sax. Then the trumpet. Then the drums. Then the piano. And back into the groove with everyone. You see what I mean?

Static just means it kinda stays the same, and that can get boring, no matter how good the music is. Variation is good, and then bringing us home to something familiar is good, as well.

Just realized a lot of other people said basically the same thing I was trying to say, so let me offer this terrific example by Jason Robert Brown (and this makes the second post in five minutes that I've mentioned him!): Im in Bizness - Putfile.com

Originally Posted by DrPangloss

Solos are good, because they let our ear hear something different. Also, your groove doesn't change up all that much. Give us some variation. So, perhaps the trombone sings a little, and then maybe the clarinet cuts the trombone off, then maybe they fight a little back and forth. The two instruments make it interesting to listen to, because suddenly it's not the full sound of all the instruments, but only one sound. Then another, and a call and response--especially with very different instruments--is yet another thing, before we go back into the familiarity of the main part.

Many jazz songs will play for a while, focusing on the main melody and groove, then the sax takes over. The piano provides some chords, the drum a basic rhythm, but mostly, it's about the sax. Then the trumpet. Then the drums. Then the piano. And back into the groove with everyone. You see what I mean?

Static just means it kinda stays the same, and that can get boring, no matter how good the music is. Variation is good, and then bringing us home to something familiar is good, as well.

Just realized a lot of other people said basically the same thing I was trying to say, so let me offer this terrific example by Jason Robert Brown (and this makes the second post in five minutes that I've mentioned him!): Im in Bizness - Putfile.com

ok,thnx I'm working on adding some length to the song and adding some counter to the melody, I couldn't hear the song you linked me do you have another site because my p.c. won't work on that site.

I've added some solos, I'll post them tommarow morning , but I'm going to sleep i'll see ya guy's tommarow.

Ok well now the mus,pdf, and mp3 are updated with the new solo's.