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And if you want to become a film/commercial composer you'd better get used to working really hard! Composition by itself is hard work enough, but composing for movies can be a real pain when it comes to deadlines. A fellow student of me recently had to score and produce music (with live musicians) for a whole movie in six days

Originally Posted by gms5287

If you're a bad student and you don't even put in the effort to get decent grades and learn it will bite you in the ass later on. Being a music major doesn't exempt you from intelligence. Please don't paint FSU in this light, the school does have higher standards than that.

Excuse me, I'm going there.
The requirements for acceptance into the university are easy for someone who is intelligent. The COM has the office of admission on a leash- the quality of student that the COM attracts puts what some people who apply to other programs at FSU to shame.
Getting a 3.0 is very easy for most highschoolers with the abundance of grade inflation. I don't really think you know the process, or even have the feel for what and how things go down for people like me applying to a school like that.

Originally Posted by Corbin The Violist

Excuse me, I'm going there.
The requirements for acceptance into the university are easy for someone who is intelligent. The COM has the office of admission on a leash- the quality of student that the COM attracts puts what some people who apply to other programs at FSU to shame.
Getting a 3.0 is very easy for most highschoolers with the abundance of grade inflation. I don't really think you know the process, or even have the feel for what and how things go down for people like me applying to a school like that.

Yes, obviously I would know nothing about a school I've been going to for 3 years . "People like me applying to a school like that." Man kid, I'm not going to lie, that's a big pound cake of arrogance. If it's one thing I know we don't like, it's hot dog freshman, deflate your ego or you're in for a very rough first year.

The COM has the office of admission on a leash

That's kind of absurd notion. To take that 650 people in a department have control over a university 32,000. It's a little bit egocentric. The University of Texas had nearly 1000 music majors in an undergraduate class of 36,000 and that program does not even pull much weight in admissions despite being highly ranked.

Originally Posted by gms5287

Yes, obviously I would know nothing about a school I've been going to for 3 years . "People like me applying to a school like that." Man kid, I'm not going to lie, that's a big pound cake of arrogance. If it's one thing I know we don't like, it's hot dog freshman, deflate your ego or you're in for a very rough first year.

It'd be nice if you didn't misinterpret what I said in the first place. All I meant by anything with grades is that they aren't as important for acceptance. Period. I didn't paint FSU as stupid. Of course, I don't think you have the feel for the application when you didn't apply the way I did, as a transfer... which would also mean I'm not a freshman. Then again, you getting that wrong would kinda say you don't really read what I'm writing or interpret it the way I intended... and that was kinda the problem in the first place. People just get a little angry when you come in angry acting like you know what they meant. Sorry I had to clarify to begin with.

@Dofts- I just meant "on a leash," as saying that if the music school wants somebody, they are going to let admissions know.... not let that person get away.... I don't mean they select all 32,000 people in the body, but that they do definitely select who gets into the COM. In other words, the admissions office isn't selecting who gets in the COM, they are.

Speaking from my own experience, at Université de Montréal (one of the top schools in music in Canada, along with UofT and McGill) for Bachelor's degree in composition, you DO have to have some ability with an instrument, as one of the course requirements is ensemble-playing (chamber music). I'm not really sure to what extent your performance ability enters into line with your acceptance. I know a bunch of people ended up being in the "massed chorus" rather than in a chamber ensemble. And as far as I can recall, orchestra was reserved for performance majors.

Once you get to Master's degree, however, there are no course requirements for performance.

It also partially depends on the requirements of the teacher with whom you want to study. I know that Professor Belkin (my mentor) expected a certain degree of pianistic abiliity from any of his comp. students.

BTW, I hold a diploma in piano and my portfolio had performances by me on the piano, so it might be that they found that I was adequate... ???

I just meant "on a leash," as saying that if the music school wants somebody, they are going to let admissions know.... not let that person get away.... I don't mean they select all 32,000 people in the body, but that they do definitely select who gets into the COM. In other words, the admissions office isn't selecting who gets in the COM, they are.

I think declaring your major and being accepted into a specific program and being admitted into a university can be consider two different things.

Originally Posted by nikolas

BTW, I hold a diploma in piano and my portfolio had performances by me on the piano, so it might be that they found that I was adequate... ???

yeah, maybe the fact that part of my portfolio had a recording of me at the piano performing one of my pieces on national radio (Radio Canada) might have swayed the jury in my case as well.

Originally Posted by DOFTS

I think declaring your major and being accepted into a specific program and being admitted into a university can be consider two different things.

At least you're nice!
They are very different indeed.