Home  Articles   Profiles  Forum  Register  Notation Software  Lessons  Archives  Contact 
Register Board Rules Member List Member Map Password Recovery Search Today's Posts Mark All Forums As Read Calendar Library
Go Back   Young Composers Music Forum > Discussion > Suggest a work

Welcome to the Young Composers Music Forum. You are currently browsing as a guest - join today to post messages, upload music, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
Reply

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Jul 29 2007, 12:20 PM

robinjessome's Avatar

Louder than you.
Group: Moderators
Joined: 2-August 06
Posts: 3,027
Member Number: 1196
Carla Bley

Okay, this was posted in another thread, but as discussion there is frowned upon, I decided to migrate this here. I'm curious if anyone will actually check her out, and let me know what you think.

Carla Bley



Now, I know none of you have heard of her, or are going to try and check her out, so I'll do it for you...

I'd love to let you listen to the entire Birds of Paradise, but it's massive (20 minutes long), and illegal (to post online). I'll give you a taste though...and perhaps some other stuff.

To me, she's by far the most creative and original composer of modern jazz music. Working often with a large Jazz Orchestra she also works with smaller ensembles, even trios and duos. She writes exceptionally well for the player - many of whom have been in her band for decades (Steve Swallow, Gary Valente, Lew Soloff), and has composed some of the darkest, ugliest and most disturbing music of all time; ALSO she has composed some of the prettiest, simplest and most beautiful music of all time. Always is it original, powerful and with her distinct sense of humour...

I've own several of her scores, many of her leadsheets are available free on her website, and I'll finally get the chance to see her perform this summer at the Guelph Jazz Festival with the Charlie Haden Liberation Music Orchestra.

She's absolutely unbelievable, and it's impossible for me to explain it to you...So, please check it out... I warn you, she's not for all ears, and many of you will not like it. I don't care...

Dig:Clips to listen to:
  • Birds Of Paradise - from the 1993 album Big Band Theory. I've excerpted some highlights from the piece (it's hard to distill a 20-minute masterpiece into 3 minutes). On a whole, the piece demonstrates Carla's mastery of the long-form. Amazing, possibly one of the greatest compositions of the 20th-Century.
  • I Hate To Sing - from I Hate To Sing (1984), smaller ensemble, good demonstration of Carla's striking sense of humour
  • Wolfgang Tango - from Fancy Chamber Music (1998), Carla wrote music for non-improvising classical musicians; a fascinating experiment with great results. You folks with the classical blinders on would do well to give at least this one a chance...
  • Real Life Hits - from the 1982 record Live!.

Um...well, there you go. Carla Bley has had a huge impact on me and my music, she's a devastating composer and it's a shame more people aren't aware of her - she's relatively unknown in the jazz community as well. If you seriously want to check more out, let me know She's also a wildly creative and individual piano player, one of my favorite musicians as well...

...
Reply With Quote
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Jul 29 2007, 4:39 PM

Composer
Group: Members
Joined: 29-July 07
Posts: 32
Member Number: 3275
I wouldn't really say she's unknown in the jazz community, but you are right in saying that her work deserves more recognition.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Jul 29 2007, 4:54 PM

robinjessome's Avatar

Louder than you.
Group: Moderators
Joined: 2-August 06
Posts: 3,027
Member Number: 1196
Quote:
Originally Posted by maittamaitta View Post
I wouldn't really say she's unknown in the jazz community, but you are right in saying that her work deserves more recognition.
Okay, not unknown, but I've met many a serious jazzer who hadn't heard of her. She's fairly low on the visibility totem pole - seeing as she rarely (never?) performs in North America.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Jul 31 2007, 4:38 PM

katchum's Avatar

Advanced Composer
Group: Members
Joined: 18-April 07
Posts: 245
Member Number: 2605
Birds of Paradise: It so reminds me of something from Hamauzu, this violin she uses here is heaven. There is one thing about this song that doesn't appeal to me, it lacks a defined melody, which on the contrary, is present in Uehara's music, also a jazz composer I discovered recently.

I hate to sing: That kind of jazz isn't really my cup of tea. It seems so old, this is written in 1984? It sounds more like 1960.

Wolfgang Tango: Again I really like the instrumentation she uses here. Her use of harmonies is very interesting. Makes me want to listen to the entire song.

Real Life Hits: Not much to say here only 7 seconds long...


Mmmmm, I still prefer Uehara.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Jul 31 2007, 5:19 PM

robinjessome's Avatar

Louder than you.
Group: Moderators
Joined: 2-August 06
Posts: 3,027
Member Number: 1196
Quote:
Originally Posted by katchum View Post
Birds of Paradise: It so reminds me of something from Hamauzu, this violin she uses here is heaven. There is one thing about this song that doesn't appeal to me, it lacks a defined melody, which on the contrary, is present in Uehara's music, also a jazz composer I discovered recently.

I hate to sing: That kind of jazz isn't really my cup of tea. It seems so old, this is written in 1984? It sounds more like 1960.

Wolfgang Tango: Again I really like the instrumentation she uses here. Her use of harmonies is very interesting. Makes me want to listen to the entire song.

Real Life Hits: Not much to say here only 7 seconds long...


Mmmmm, I still prefer Uehara.

Well, I appreciate you taking the time to check it out. It's hard to give a good example of a 20+ minute piece in 3 minutes....

Glad you enjoyed some of it, she's got a very diverse and ecclectic style, and I assure you, she's worth further exploration... I don't really think you can compare a relative newcomer like Uehara to someone with a prolific and profound career like Ms. Bley.

Not sure what happened to Real Life Hits, should be about 2 minutes. ?! [tested] Works fine for me [/tested]
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Jan 30 2008, 4:37 PM

Romanticist's Avatar

Official YC Mahlerian.
Group: Members
Joined: 11-December 07
Posts: 1,488
Member Number: 3908
I find her to be an interesting character actually....(from what I have heard and read)
__________________
OFFICIAL YC MAHLERIANS!!!!!
Nordreise, Romanticist, Steventanoto, JT, Qwmne235, Frederik, SaXoPhoNe-AlT
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Jan 30 2008, 8:50 PM

Banned
Group: Banned
Joined: 2-November 07
Posts: 490
Member Number: 3684
Thank you, something that isn't Beethoven 1,3,5,6,7,9 or Brahms 1-4, or Tchaikovsky (you know I'm right people)

I'm listening to I Hate To Sing right now. It sort of reminds me of...The Residents, if they played jazz/blues tinged music.

Birds of Paradise - Man, monster trombone playing. I'm digging this stuff Rob, seriously thanks for posting this. I will definitely check out more of this music.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Jan 30 2008, 11:49 PM

robinjessome's Avatar

Louder than you.
Group: Moderators
Joined: 2-August 06
Posts: 3,027
Member Number: 1196
Quote:
Originally Posted by gms5287 View Post
Thank you, something that isn't Beethoven
Who?


Quote:
Originally Posted by gms5287 View Post
...I'm digging this stuff Rob, seriously thanks for posting this. I will definitely check out more of this music.
Glad you like it! You folks are just lucky I haven't purged the clips from my website yet

Ya see, the jazz is like a Jell-o Pudding Pop!!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Jan 31 2008, 12:41 AM

Banned
Group: Banned
Joined: 2-November 07
Posts: 490
Member Number: 3684
Quote:
Originally Posted by robinjessome View Post
Who?




Glad you like it! You folks are just lucky I haven't purged the clips from my website yet

Ya see, the jazz is like a Jell-o Pudding Pop!!

And the KIDS don't know what the JAAAAAZZZ...is all about ya see!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Jan 31 2008, 1:27 PM

Mike's Avatar

Administrator
Group: Administrators
Joined: 10-May 05
Posts: 4,539
Member Number: 1
I bought Big Band Theory on iTunes after listening to the sample on your site, Robin.

I'm sure Carla now owes you some commission!
__________________
"If you think you can, you can. And if you think you can't, you're right."
- Mary Kay Ash
Reply With Quote
 

Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:53 PM.

RSS

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0
Proprietary software and modifications Copyright ©2005 - 2008, Young Composers