Celtivan Base .08

This is the piece for the base you originally start off in as a Celtivan squire. You fight in 1 war and get promoted to Knight before the Sycnivech event takes place.

Celtivan is a strong country and have high-tec weapons for there time. So, I decided to makes there theme have some moderness to them, even though we are still talking about the sword & shield days. The melody itself is once again varations of the main theme.

BTW, half way through it appears as though it is lopping, but its actually just the same instrumentation with new varations. I picked this up from Koichi Sugiyama (most known from the Dragon Quest series) as he does this to make it appear like the looping is natural and makes it more noticeable, but at the same time less. I just thought it was neat that he did that in his pieces.

SoundClick artist: Bob Taylon - page with MP3 music downloads

Any comments or advice are welcomed. Thank you for listening.

An interesting tune... it reminds me a bit of music from another game called Savage (you did not say anywhere that this piece is actually for a computer game - I am just assuming by your description). I liked the melody lines that you used in this piece.... but I thought that the repititive stuff in the background could have had changes. Specifically, I am talking about the percussion and the pizzicato string repetition (was it strings??). I thought you could have changed the notes you used for the pizzicato, and maybe make a few variations in the rhythm of the percussion. Even subtle changes would help to keep the music unpredictable. Then again, you might have been aiming for a minimalist-style piece - in that case keep it the same. Was that an oboe I heard playing the melody at one stage??... I particularly liked your use of this instrument.

Oh, and I don't quite understand what your theme is... "sword & shield days" with "high-tec weapons"?? Are you referring to modern technology? If so, then maybe add some use of synthesizer sounds - such as a pad sound or a synth-bassline.

By the way is this music for a commercial game? I am interested because I want to know how easy it would be to write for commercial games.

The rhythm is pizzicato F E and then violin staccato D and after 3 measures G. I realise the rhythm arrangement needs some work and I am working on it.

The instrumentation for woodwind is:

-2's Flute & Oboe
-Bassoon

Bassoon is playing with and without the violin section and the Flute and Oboe have there own section together.

By high-tec I mean high-tec for there time (which is when swords and shields were standard weapons.
Oh and it's not really commercial I guess. I'm doing it free and only a few people will likely play it.

After sleeping on it I decided it would be better to leave the rythm arrangment as is. It fits the mood I'm going for.

The only thing I'm worried about is does this piece pull it off or is it to repetitive?

Bob

I don't think this is too repetitve at all. The bassoon (which is great btw) makes it different enough. JMHO

Ron

From the description you gave, it fit well. The actual music isn't too repetitive, but I found the pizzicato/percussion combination to be, and the strings started to after a while. And the trills sounded out of place to me, maybe it's just me.

Ron: Yeah, I think it works fine maybe just need to lower the pizzicato a little. Glad you liked the bassoon, i tried to use it in it's higher octaves.
JMHO..?

Songjun: I can agree with you about the percussion and pizzicato being repetitive, but not the strings mainly because they don't every play the same melody variation.

Originally Posted by Bob Taylon

Ron: Yeah, I think it works fine maybe just need to lower the pizzicato a little. Glad you liked the bassoon, i tried to use it in it's higher octaves.
JMHO..?

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Just My Humble Opinion.


I did a string quartet, that had a cello doing some pizz off and on thru the entire piece, then some one said that maybe you could change it a little and it would sound better. I thought the guy was a punk trying to mess with me. 3 months later, I finally understood what he was saying and altered the pizz just enough that it no longer was too repetitve and yet stayed at the same rhythm. For the piece as is, it is great, but as a loop I don't know.
I still love the bassoon.

Ron

Well, if you already can't tell from my own work, I rather like the idea of basing an entire piece around a simple, repetitive ostinato. It makes a piece sound more cohesive and together, and I think when done properly, it can achieve great results. This piece was repetitive to a degree, but not so overly repetitive that I lost interest. I think every piece needs a bit of repetition and I think you nailed the balance between new material and repetitiveness well. Nice job.

Ron:
Damn punks lol
No, I get what your saying and I agree with pretty much everything people are saying, but after tweaking the rythm arrangement around I feel like it loses the vibe I'm going for that's all. As for the strings playing the melody I don't feel it is very repetitive. I guess it all comes down to opinion.

Nirvana69:
Interesting thoughts. I guess that's true because if there was no repetition it would sound like it had no since of direction. Glad you liked it.