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These rules are fine, i'm still in. But say, are we allowed to include fun stuff? like screaming?

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Rachmaninoff's vespers!!!! He wrote for the Bflat below the bass clef[/b]

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Just Curious. - I have participated heavily in this thread, initiating conversations that seem to have had an impact on its format, the use of text, issues of vocal range, etc. But I'm not sure I understand why I have not been included in the judging after asking a number of times. Nicholas, could it be that you are sticking to your guns?:

Frankly, if one cannot see the value of choral music that doesn't have text, they obviously are not fully qualified to judge.

Frankly, I found this comment to be an attack on my character, or condescending at best, and my point of view was not even considered at face value - until later, apparently. I decided to defend my statement in as polite a fashion as I could muster. In the course of my correspondences, I made it clear that I am not AGAINST music not set to text. I did not receive much in the way of acknowledgement of my point of view, except from one or two individuals, one privately, and I intend to respect their privacy.

Nevertheless, all of a sudden, the rules changed in a way that has reflected my point of view. I definitely get the feeling that there was a bit of PMing going on that caused this. Though I have no formal right to complain about it, I am disappointed that I was not consulted on the issue, and a bit confused as to why I haven't been added to the list of judges.

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm complaining - I guess I have been made to feel like an outsider with this particular endeavor (although I could be imagining it), and for all of my efforts to participate - it has been a more than a little frustrating at times.

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why not?

Another question, I had an idea for some kind of choral symphony for SATB + 2x pianos. Is it okay to use 2 pianos as long as I aknowledge that it is the choral writing i'm being jduged on? (I'd imagine so, but I just need to be completely sure)

Count me in for this one!

Added you as a contestant, The Baroque Enthusiast.

And you've been added as a judge, leightwing. Please try not to get worked up on any "politics" you have been perceiving - I'm confident there have been none. You may have imagined this because I have been unavailable to answer a PM Nick sent me asking to confirm the changes he made.

Added you as a contestant, The Baroque Enthusiast.

And you've been added as a judge, leightwing. Please try not to get worked up on any "politics" you have been perceiving - I'm confident there have been none. You may have imagined this because I have been unavailable to answer a PM Nick sent me asking to confirm the changes he made. [/b]

Thank you Mike

Nick - I'm sorry if I offended you - I was unsure of how to 'vent' my frustrations and kind of lost my temper there. I'll try and lay low for a while. Looking forward to doing some listening.

However, a voice that can sing from C below the staff to High C above Middle C is impossible. I have to tell you that Falsetto does NOT count in vocal ranges. If it does, then I can sing from F2-F5 with no problems whatsoever. But seeing as nearly half of that is in falsetto, it doesn't really count. It doesn't mean you can't write music to be sun in Falsetto, but you have to do it tastefully.

Everyone I've talked to has said that falsetto IS part of ones range. But even if it were'nt I can still get to G4 without falsetto, which is a good 3 and a half octaves. So maybe this whole thing is pointless because some of us are refering to range with falsetto (or maybe just me) and everyone else is refering to range without falsetto. I'm sure it is possible to hit 4 octaves without falsetto, just really hard to do. And the soprano I mentioned earlier who can go from E3 to Ab6 does it with out whisle tones.

Leightwing, I'm sorry for any crude remarks I have made. You must understand what your first post seemed to imply to me, also with condescension. It seemed to say that if we didn't change the rules you didn't agree with that we'd lose your influence when the judging comes. This seemed very innapropriate for the thread and I didn't want to have to deal with it any further. And truly, if someone is not willing to accept all of a piece of music, then they are not going to be as accurate a judge as someone who takes everything at face value and leaves biases behind, right? That's all I was trying to say, but I guess I got kind of miffed from your post.

And by changing the rules, I have not just gotten rid of no text-pieces, but I have moved the whole focus of the competition to the setting of text, because I felt that it would prove better in the end to have a tighter set of rules so the judging will not end up being so loosely strung together. If the focus is more exact, like on text-setting, then each piece can be compared to one another as far as that is concerned, making it easier to pick the best one, rather than having it turn into a question of whether or not someone likes the harmonic pallate someone used, you know?

And I'm not sure what you're getting at by saying there has been 'pming' about these decisions, but there hasn't, and I have made all these changes public from the start! Noone told me to change anything, noone told me anything! And you hadn't been added as a judge because I simply forgot! Sorry about that!

Thinking of writing something really active and chaotic. I could set one of E.E. Cummings' poems...