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Old Jan 9 2008, 12:39 PM

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Ok, for one vibrato is not a cover up of an instrument's "pure tone". Straight tone is boring on any instrument. Vibrato gives what the player is performing color and a uniqueness to their playing. If everyone in the world played with no vibrato then it would be almost impossible to tell the difference between them. Although it is usually not orthodox to play anything before 1850 with vibrato, I feel that music is about change and revolution. Classical music is no different. If everyone played everything the same til the end of time, no one would want to listen to classical music. Thats pretty much the only reason why this genre isnt a dead art is because musicians changed the way music in the classical and early romantic periods was played so it could inspire new ways of writing.

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Old Jan 9 2008, 12:44 PM

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Thats pretty much the only reason why this genre isn't a dead art is because musicians changed the way music in the classical and early romantic periods was played so it could inspire new ways of writing.
That is hardly (if at all) much of an inspiration... Mozart liked vibrato on clarinet, so bringing it back isn't really changing much.
I think vibrato stands out too much on clarinet. The timbre on the clarinet makes it way to prominent.
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Old Jan 9 2008, 8:03 PM

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Vibrato was originally an ornament, not a tonal ideal. There's a quote from Leopold Mozart out there somewhere chiding violinists that "tremble upon every note as if suffering from a palsy" that I find particularly apt.

Personally, I feel that most musicians can occasionally use vibrato to good effect, but many simply overuse it, which is often frankly tiresome.

Of course, if you want to omit it, you can specify "no vibrato" in your works when appropriate...
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Old Jan 11 2008, 1:09 AM

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*hurries off and marks "No vibrato." in all his compositions that include clarinet*

Could you write "espressivo senza vibrato" ?
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Old Jan 12 2008, 12:42 AM

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Here is a clarinet in Eb with Vibrato.

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I was even asked if parts of this was done by a flute.

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Old Jan 12 2008, 7:56 PM

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My former horn teacher plays the Alphorn with vibrato. That's some really weird combination
Allright the first question, does anyone have a clip or video that actually shows horn vibrato, or what it sounds like?

2nd question, in a piece of music would it be appropriate just to put "no vibrato" as to signify that I want no vibrato, or is there a special term for it?
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Old Jan 13 2008, 2:58 PM

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Okay, this fellow uses multiphonics on horn, and I heard a speckle of vibrato, but just a speckle.
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The following is a massive Horn Festival in Columbia, and the beginning of this video starts with the Siegfried Long Call, and you can hear some vibrato notes here and there, but just a little. The opening solo to Titanic Fantasy after the Siegfried call also is played with some vibrato here and there, but you have to listen closely.
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Old Jan 13 2008, 4:13 PM

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I think that both clips sound good with thta kind of vibrato. I fact, that is exactly what I like! Hopefully I'm not the ONLY one...

Also... the guys in both clips are constantly out of tune...
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Old Jan 13 2008, 4:43 PM

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Yes, and to tell the truth, horn is one of the instruments that you really have no excuse for playing with bad intonation on, the right hand is there to fine tune everything, so intonation can be as perfect as on a trombone or stringed instrument.
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