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Old May 17 2008, 1:49 PM

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Old May 17 2008, 4:50 PM

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That's Andy Warhol in your avatar, yes?

Your "score" looks quite interesting, I definitely like how it looks (I thought of Mondrian for a second, but of course it's much too freely drawn for that). I can really appreciate it as a good piece of visual art and that's already something! It is quite musically suggestive, with its resemblances to a sharp sign and the horizontal lines which you could read as note lines and the vertical ones as bar lines. I know of course that you can interprete it a lot more freely, but since it's a piece of music, such typical musical connotations come to mind first.

Personally, I'm not too fond of music that is that open, as a composer. (As a performer, I find playing such pieces great!). As most of the times you will just get the musicians to play an improvisation in a way they are used to improvising, as the musician has not the tiniest element to "aim at". It would be a lot different, for example, if you actually defined a couple of things about your score: For example you could say that it's the placement of the sounds in a room. Or that the horizontal axis is the time, and the vertical whatever the musician wants. Or that the whole picture is a certain sound or timbre the musicians should seek.

Even the most free compositions by John Cage or Stockhausen had some very clear instructions. I'm working on an electronic performance of some of Cage's "variations", for example. They are -very- free and graphical, sometimes not even giving a hint about the sounds of a piece, but they always specify some elements quite precisely, such as the placement of the sounds, which gives the piece a unique, clear character, while keeping it very open.

A piece I quite enjoy (and I didn't think I'd enjoy it when I read the score) is Stockhausen's "Setz' die Segel zur Sonne". Those guys are playing it, and I think it sounds -awesome-: YouTube - Set Sail For The Sun by Karlheinz Stockhausen
The "score" is extremely meagre, but it forms the piece very directly and the musicians always know what they "should do": "play a tone for so long / until you hear its individual vibrations // hold the tone / and listen to the tones of the others / - to all of them together, not to individual ones - / and slowly move your tone / until you arrive at complete harmony / and the whole sound turns to gold / to pure, gently shimmering fire"
(Such "precision" may already go too far for you, of course. I'm not saying you can stay very open.)

But of course it's quite possible, with the right musicians, to achieve a wonderful music with that score of yours. Personally, I just like a little more direction given by the composer, but that's just my general opinion. But since your piece is so open, I can only really give a general impression about this kind of music, rather than a precise review of your piece.

It would be nice to hear a recording of it though!
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Old May 17 2008, 5:23 PM

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thanks for your comment, i really appreciate it.
yes u have reason, it could be better if i put more indications.
personally, i choice don't put any indication more that the score, because i thing that it let the musician to explore his mind, and after all, say what the dam is it (lol) and play it. i love music for La Monte Young, one of the reasons is this form, let free, like i saw in my signature: keep you mind wide open.
one again very thanks, u are a great musician and performer, no any one says what is it, they say: stupid man, this not music. lol. see u in yours and my scores.
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Old May 17 2008, 5:23 PM

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and yes, is Andy XD
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Old May 17 2008, 8:30 PM

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I wonder what the Ceiling of the Sistine Chapel sounds like?
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