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Old Mar 2 2008, 2:28 PM

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THanks for stopping by and taking a listen and I am happy you enjoyed this.


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I think that I will revisit the main theme after the comical section and then end this piece. I see what you mean and I think that is why I knew that the piece was not done yet.

The comical section is there for the reasons I have told you. The reasons we go to war and my reaction to the whole process. If that makes sense.

I rarely use other people's music in my works, but you have a good idea there with Johnny comes marching home. I will look into that.

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Old Mar 2 2008, 11:57 PM

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You don't have a 'key', but you certainly have pitch centers, although they change fairly quickly! There are moments where tonality is implied, amidst mild dissonance. You use a lot of stacked 4ths, which is another great sound.

An original voice! You have a lot of leanings towards quartal and pentatonic scales, with a unique control over dissonance. It sounds like you are maybe stretching to keep your music tonal sometimes? Or is that just me? Nice work!
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Old Mar 8 2008, 3:06 PM

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PREPARE FOR THE COMMENT FROM YOUR BIGGEST FAN!

BRACE YOURSELF!

okay, now that thats out of the way....very nice work!!!! this is now my favorite piece by you..well..besides invasion of the universe...but still, you captured a gem and decided we were worthy to glimpse the radiant shine.

now the music, my dream would be to see a score. there were so many things you did that i would like to see written, but i understand you said you werent finished so meh its okay. your pentatonic thematic material was well orchestrated and superbly (<--- is that a word?) used. i let you know my favorite parts, but, i can honestly say that i found nothing boring/uninteresting in this piece. very dramatic and at the end i couldnt help but laugh at the brass fanfare-ish part, the musical context fit perfectly. its like, "we think weve done something good" but they have no idea they had a reverse impact. very nice work with the brass, i have trouble writing for them, another reason i would like to see a score if possible . from listening to your other pieces, i would say your orchestration has improved drastically...it doesnt sound as thin and brittle anymore ( not that it was bad before, im just saying this is a step up). you seem to be able to create such an amazing atmosphere of sound in this one...layers and layers of texture keeping the listener warm at night. oh by the way, did i mention i wanna see the score?

im trying my best to find the things i didnt like lol. some of the instruments at certain points i found to offset the mood for me. the snare drum i didnt really care for, but dont worry, i have a personal vendetta against them. i just dont like their demeaner. they cut through the entire orchestra too much and thats what i focus on. its like the woodblock in the ride in the machine piece (whatever its called). hmmm...whatelse...I DONT KNOW! wonderful piece, constructed so well that after the um-teenth listen i find it more and more enjoyable everytime. i frequently visit this piece, i have listened to it many times. i enjoy your work so much Ron, please let me know with a PM when you post another . cheers mate!

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Old Mar 11 2008, 2:41 PM

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You don't have a 'key', but you certainly have pitch centers, although they change fairly quickly! There are moments where tonality is implied, amidst mild dissonance. You use a lot of stacked 4ths, which is another great sound.

An original voice! You have a lot of leanings towards quartal and pentatonic scales, with a unique control over dissonance. It sounds like you are maybe stretching to keep your music tonal sometimes? Or is that just me? Nice work!
Thank you very much for your comments. I apologize for taking so long to get back to you, but between school and getting the flu, I have been backlogged.

Thanks again

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Old Mar 11 2008, 2:44 PM

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Each time I post, I await with anticipation for your review. EAch time I am afraid that the spell will be broken and you will see thru my facade at the real me and say why am I listening to this crap.

I really don't like tghe snare drum either, and yet being a war piece I feel it has to have one. I do try to keep it quiet and in the background.

I am very happy you saw the humor towards the end in this. It is just my stab at the insanity of war.

I also look forward to a new one by you!!!

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Old Mar 21 2008, 9:12 AM
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There's a very simple term for what you call wrong-note consonance and such such, not quite atonal, but yet not functional-harmony based. It's pretty much "extended harmony", where you have functional principles, but you add ontop of them dissonances and other things to get different chords-note relationships.

Hindemith was very fond of this. Wrote books on it, too.

I thought the piece moves through a lot of things, never really settling on one or another, and there's a bunch of pendulum moments. It sorta feels like either you weren't very sure of what to do next, or just kept on writing with no concern for the connection between the sections.

I personally liked the contrasts between the sections, like near the end this thing with the brass, and the tight little motives.

It ends pretty much out of nowhere, considering all it went through. Though, if that was the intention, that's fine. It would've been nice to have a more direct relation between the sections in some point or another, like, reusing a little of the music material (not repeating it outright), the ending feels like something that would benefit from this perhaps.
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Old Mar 21 2008, 10:36 AM

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I will have to say, this piece actually really reminds me of "Satiric Dances - for a Comedy by Aristophanes" by Norman Dello Joio, (click on gallery at the top, then satiric dances) which is one of my favourite pieces, so that's a good thing .

I like your almost innovative ("almost" because it's not completely new) style of music, I find that it's a good thing that some people are pushing away from the norm. One thing I did find though, and it could be just because of whatever you're using for the instruments (GPO, you said), was that the strings almost sounded a little watered out, if you know what I mean.

Either than that, great job, this was awesome to listen to!
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Old Mar 25 2008, 12:38 AM

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I am not really finished with thios yet, that is way the ending seems out of place. I think before I am finished with this one, I will revisit the beginning and then give the piece a larger ending as well. I dfo enjoy some of Hindemith's works and have seen a few of his pieces done live as well. It doesn't bother me at all to have my name mentioned in the same paragraph as his. Thanks.


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I listened to Satiric Dances - for a Comedy by Aristophanes" by Norman Dello Joio, and can see some resemblance. I can see why you like that piece! Pity it wasn't a better recording.

I wanted the strings to be a little lowered in this, just because I have a bad habit of relying too much on them in most of my works.

I am very happy you enjoyed this one and look forward to downloading your video soon.

Thanks guys. Your comments are very much so appreciated.

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Old Mar 26 2008, 12:29 AM

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Yah, I'm sorry about the recording quality. I just looked for the best one I could find on YouTube. I would have uploaded a decent recording myself, but that's technically illegal .

Lowering the strings makes sense. I'll listen to it again tomorrow (I would now, but I don't know where my headphones are and my siblings are sleeping) with that in mind and see what I think.

I've always been a big fan of either atonal or, as your piece's name states: "wrong note consonance", lately I've been trying to write some stuff in that style, and it's a lot harder than it seems like it would be. Good job again!
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Old Mar 27 2008, 8:51 AM

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Some how I missed this one Ron, sorry.
But hey its a really nice piece, I felt you a little, but less dissonance then usual, I guess. When I saw the titles I was expecting it to be really wrong note, but after listening to it, I see where you are going with it. Great Work as always!
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