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Old Jul 23 2008, 1:06 PM

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How can ANYONE say this was a good soundtrack? Let's review the major themes (the only themes, if you can call them themes): Batman's: C----Eb-----. Joker's theme? The major contributions of music when he was on screen WAS ONE SINGLE HELD NOTE!!!

The last time I checked, one or two notes did not make a theme. And the rest of the music was complete background music, a couple of chord changes here and there with the strings, some synthesized drums, and a whole lot of disappointment from real film music lovers such as myself.
Well it can be a theme if people associate the music with a character, etc. As long as it works. I haven't seen the film myself but looking at some previous posts it seems as if it does. Even you recognise the theme and associate it with characters. So yeah...it's a theme.
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Old Jul 23 2008, 1:40 PM

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Well personally I think a motif is not a theme.

I haven't seen the Dark Knight, but I did not enjoy the soundtrack for the first film! I agree with oingo; it's just not good enough for a hollywood movie or indeed anything! Hopefully film composing will get back on track in the future.
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Old Jul 23 2008, 1:46 PM

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??????????????????????????

How can ANYONE say this was a good soundtrack? Let's review the major themes (the only themes, if you can call them themes): Batman's: C----Eb-----. Joker's theme? The major contributions of music when he was on screen WAS ONE SINGLE HELD NOTE!!!

The last time I checked, one or two notes did not make a theme. And the rest of the music was complete background music, a couple of chord changes here and there with the strings, some synthesized drums, and a whole lot of disappointment from real film music lovers such as myself.
Wow, what strange pitch you have! It is clearly D and F. I'm curious why you thought it was C, Eb. That's so unusual that you have the right interval but wrong notes. Zimmer is not known for melody, but more for rhythm and I think that his contribution to the score clearly shows him doing what he does best - fast pulsing rhythm. It worked pretty well on film but is boring on CD.
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Wow, what strange pitch you have! It is clearly D and F. I'm curious why you thought it was C, Eb. That's so unusual that you have the right interval but wrong notes. Zimmer is not known for melody, but more for rhythm and I think that his contribution to the score clearly shows him doing what he does best - fast pulsing rhythm. It worked pretty well on film but is boring on CD.
don't be a douche. he was simply applying solfeggio to it. transposing it into the simplest key. C - Eb is the same thing as D - F.
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don't be a douche. he was simply applying solfeggio to it. transposing it into the simplest key. D - Eb is the same thing as D - F.

C- Eb you mean
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Old Jul 23 2008, 4:25 PM

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C- Eb you mean
yes, a typo.
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Old Jul 23 2008, 4:28 PM

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Good lord, some people really like to nitpick on here.

Is some of the film's music simple- yes. However, this is not a good criteria for judging a soundtrack.

A better way to evaluate it would be: Does it still cause a certain effect or support the movie? If it does, then the film's score achieved its goal. If not, it didn't. Saying music has to be complex is not the way to judge value or effect. Look at Erik Satie's Gymnopédie Numbers 1-3. Beautiful, effective and simple.
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Old Jul 23 2008, 5:12 PM

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Just imagine the scene where Elliot and ET fly past the moon, supported by a Zimmer motif...

Those aren't tears of joy!
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Old Jul 23 2008, 5:50 PM

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The soundtrack was effective but forgettable. More forgettable than Transformers, which was equally as effective.

There was a moment in the movie, I think it was the ending, where the music really stood out as something really nice. I think it's the part with the voiceover.


I like how they handled two-face. He wasn't too prominent, but it's cool that they did that. I mean, he really can't do too much aside from shooting people and being ugly.
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Old Jul 23 2008, 5:58 PM

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I didn't like the score, either. It was rather bland. However, it did do what it was supposed to (make the movie better), so there's no reason to bash it.
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