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Old Jun 26 2008, 2:51 PM

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Any language can sound dark.
I think it is the way the language is used that adds to the darkness, as well as who sings it. Check out various requiems for some dark and brooding. However, those are in Latin. But you would get an idea.

Try working on a particular minor key too. I feel that different minor keys give off different auras of evilness.
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Old Jun 26 2008, 4:07 PM

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Latin has the advantage that, while unlike nonsense it actually means stuff, it's nobody's native language. If you use Portuguese or whatever because it sounds cool and exotic to you, it won't to a Portuguese guy. But Latin is like that to everyone. Artificial languages (including Tolkien's) have the same advantage, but raise more eyebrows.

If you intend to put together some Latin of your own, though, make sure to run it through someone who understands the language (unless you do), because to someone who does, there's nothing worse than a bunch of Latin words from a dictionary strung together. Same with Quenya or something, except hardly anybody will notice...
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Old Jun 27 2008, 12:29 AM

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Latin has the advantage that, while unlike nonsense it actually means stuff, it's nobody's native language. If you use Portuguese or whatever because it sounds cool and exotic to you, it won't to a Portuguese guy. But Latin is like that to everyone. Artificial languages (including Tolkien's) have the same advantage, but raise more eyebrows.

If you intend to put together some Latin of your own, though, make sure to run it through someone who understands the language (unless you do), because to someone who does, there's nothing worse than a bunch of Latin words from a dictionary strung together. Same with Quenya or something, except hardly anybody will notice...
He does have a point. somethign you could look into would be making a language of your own. Alot of extra time, but interesting none the less. IT doens thave to be a fully functionign language either. Esperanto might be a good choice too. Easy to find some one to check over your work. Though this will me there are more semi familiar words. SO this could be a bad thign.
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Old Jun 27 2008, 1:33 AM

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I finally started the piece.. I just think I'll use gibberish, after all I never thought about using a language sounding cool to me but to a native it sounds stupid/it could sound happy..

With the way I'll be using the drone chords it would be something like "Moo-ah-be-Mesh-Kou-ah-be"
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Old Jun 27 2008, 11:40 AM

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Old English. It sounds Dark, no one speaks it.

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Fęder ure žu že eart on heofonum
Si žin nama gehalgod
to becume žin rice
gewurže šin willa
on eoršan swa swa on heofonum.
urne gedęghwamlican hlaf syle us todęg
and forgyf us ure gyltas
swa swa we forgyfaš urum gyltendum
and ne gelęd žu us on costnunge
ac alys us of yfele sožlice
Yes, that is English.

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Father our thou that art in heavens
be thy name hallowed
come thy kingdom
be done thy will
on earth as in heavens
our daily bread give us today
and forgive us our sins
as we forgive those who have sinned against us
and not lead thou us into temptation
but deliver us from evil truly
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Old Jun 27 2008, 12:34 PM

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Oooooo never thought of Anglo-Saxon (old english)
I have Beowulf upstairs and it's a Bilingual translation, the left page has the original Old English text and the right side has it in modern language.
I really don't know the purpose of knowing what Beowulf was in Old English, but at least I could find some words from there.
even though I did already type up most of my song's words in my gibberish language..
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Old Jun 27 2008, 2:04 PM

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Anglo Saxon is a killer idea actually.

Maybe you can yous Hopelandic.

Vonlenska - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Though. Idt there is an actual guide and its all gibberish ne way.
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Though. Idt there is an actual guide and its all gibberish ne way.
gibberish.. like "Idt" and "ne"?

A word of warning: using "leet speak" like "ne" for "any" is frowned upon on this forum. It will probably result in an eventual infraction point for you. So I'd suggest cleaning it up
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Actually I slightly misread the original post! nvm... I mean never mind! I think Latin or Anglo Saxon is a good direction and I'm anxious to hear the result. Good luck!
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Actually I slightly misread the original post! nvm... I mean never mind! I think Latin or Anglo Saxon is a good direction and I'm anxious to hear the result. Good luck!
thanks.
I will have to experiment around (like someone told me in my first thread on these forums) with a few things, like should the drone be a single note, or a chord or notes? I have the first 4 Verses/Choruses and I'm debating adding more.

If anyone has ever played Samus 3: Corruption then there is a song on there that sounds a bit like what I want to write... I'm just debating weather to make the drone like the one on the game or like one I had originally planned.. the one on the game sounds a lot cooler because it's not just straight eighth notes, it's like dotted eight-sixteenth notes.


The other things I'll experiment with is languages, I have my first 4 verses written in my own "gibberish" language, but it makes sense.. to me anyway, and it repeats a lot of the same words so it's like an actual language.


EDIT: If you are curious to see the lyrics I have uploaded them..
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