Dawn

I am writing this in response for a call for scores. I thought the deadline was next week but it is actually Friday so I need to get a move on. I wrote this melody and accompaniment in one hour during the early hours of this morning (so its not my best work ever) but I have hit a wall in that I am not sure how to continue or how to make the piano part less static.

Normally I would stare at it until the answer arrived but I don't have the luxury of being able to do that.

(Apologies for the sound quality - GPO is being a pain in the arse )

ive noticed your recent threads and it seems like you are in a bit of a bind. i will soon comment on both your pieces but i cant at the moment....im at school. later in the day ill review your work though.

Originally Posted by thatguy

ive noticed your recent threads and it seems like you are in a bit of a bind. i will soon comment on both your pieces but i cant at the moment....im at school. later in the day ill review your work though.

There is only one piece - if you reference to the Deep Space Nine arrangement - that was almost two years ago.

I am sorry to double post but I have been staring at the piece for the last hour and apart from a couple of ideas (which I saved in a different file because they weren't really in keeping with the mood of the piece) nothing as changed (except I corrected 6/8 for 3/4 and therefore the violin bow markings).

I am thinking about leaving the piano part of that section as is because it sounds quite pleasant so the question is where on earth to I go now.

Okie

C.

What is really pleasent is that you are diverse. Well done on that!

what you've shown here is just a small intro to a larger piece. I realise that YOU realise that, but it needs to be said.

Giving you straight suggestions on where to go, is not a good idea really. It's your piece, not mine. I would "easily" (yeah right... I've been stuck for months and months in times!) to work it for you, or advice on some detail, but it's not the best thing to do.

It is deadly slow, right?

Do you want to keep it this way? Dawn for you means sleep? It sure means darkenss, but isn't it also warmth? Calmness? Something else?

Movenemt? How about that? In the piano, or the violin.

Maybe a change of mood, totally, because all those aug. chords are getting on YOUR nerve (I'm fine with them! ) There is absolutely no rule that you need to be coherent to the harmonic language you use forever. You started with this type of chors, but your violin is playing something. This makes an impact to the brain and ears to the audience. You have every excuse to take the melody and make it into harmony. If it works for your ears, it shall work for the examiner as well.

Nikolas

PS. I would advice to attempt to transcribe the sibelius files to pdf. It's much easier for everyone, although I've managed to install schorch finally (only on IE, not firefox... hehe)

Originally Posted by nikolas

What is really pleasent is that you are diverse. Well done on that!

Ok, I understand this is nice thing that you have said so thanks! However, I would be interested (for future reference) to know what you mean by diverse.

Originally Posted by nikolas

what you've shown here is just a small intro to a larger piece. I realise that YOU realise that, but it needs to be said.

Yes, the call for scores is up to 8 mins - I am aiming for 4-5 given the short time frame I have to finish it.

Originally Posted by nikolas

It is deadly slow, right?

Do you want to keep it this way? Dawn for you means sleep? It sure means darkenss, but isn't it also warmth? Calmness? Something else?

Movenemt? How about that? In the piano, or the violin.

Maybe a change of mood, totally, because all those aug. chords are getting on YOUR nerve (I'm fine with them! ) There is absolutely no rule that you need to be coherent to the harmonic language you use forever. You started with this type of chors, but your violin is playing something. This makes an impact to the brain and ears to the audience. You have every excuse to take the melody and make it into harmony. If it works for your ears, it shall work for the examiner as well.

Aug chords are growing on me. I must admit on entering the second year (the first time around) the second my lecturer said we could throw our harmony books out the window, I started having fits. Tonality is all I know though I am starting to expand my harmony.

So far the piece has influences in two former pieces - Under the Celtic Barrow which was and Oboe and String Quartet work with a free oboe melody and accomp. and a piece I did at A level which involved add 9th/11ths - an influence I gained from my A level Historical lessons in Impressionism.

Unfortunutly, I have been stop by the fact my computer's hard drive appears to be on its last legs and is dying after so on (meaning I can only have my desktop on for roughly 30mins a time). I haven't yet installed Sibelius 5 on to my laptop.

If I can find somewhere which does binding on a weekend near me or take it in first thing Monday to the uni binders I might make the deadline - The real deadline is Monday but because I want it binding before submission I have to get it done before that.

Thanks for taking the trouble to install scorch - I will remember about pdf files for future reference.

This is an updated audio of Dawn - no score because its currently a mess .

Isn't a brilliant audio because I am currently not on my main computer and the crecs/dim markings aren't really being brought out and I just thought I would share where my piece is heading and get some comments. Feel free to rip it to shreds - only way I will learn.

The idea I have had with Dawn is to use the first 15 as a template for the piece and at the end the "intro" will return but in an extended and more developed way. As you will hopefully hear the second section is based on the triplet movement and gets some movement finally going in the piano albeit it being arpeggiated (sp?) movement. My next step in section three is to move use the piano for a melody and move the tonal center to a different key.

I know I wanted to get it done by today so I could get it bound but the need for sleep stopped me last night and I found a guy who will bind it for me over the weekend.

Dawn @ AcidPlanet

I don't have much to say about the craft of this - it's just out of my sphere of expertise.

But, I will say that it's quite pretty - very lyrical/melodic and could be devastating in the hands of passionate performers. There's beautiful stuff here, and I think it will work well as part of a larger work. From this point (i.e. the end of 'Dawn') you can easily take it ANY number of places; to develop and expand your idea.

I look forward to the next installments.

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Thanks for sharing, hope you get it printed/bound in time!

Originally Posted by robinjessome

But, I will say that it's quite pretty - very lyrical/melodic and could be devastating in the hands of passionate performers. There's beautiful stuff here ...

Do you reckon its too tonal? That's one of my concerns since I had the chance last week to meet Huw Watkins (pianist) at a performance for his Piano Concerto. That was everything BUT tonal.

Everything these days is so dissonance and although I don't mind it - I am stuck in Tonality.

Edit - Huw will be the pianist at the workshop I am writing for.

Originally Posted by raining_hail

Do you reckon its too tonal? That's one of my concerns since I had the chance last week to meet Huw Watkins (pianist) at a performance for his Piano Concerto. That was everything BUT tonal.

Everything these days is so dissonance and although I don't mind it - I am stuck in Tonality.

Edit - Huw will be the pianist at the workshop I am writing for.

Don't sweat it. It's tough for even the most well-thought and adventurous 'modern' piece to beat something with a beautiful and lyrical MELODY. As this piece will develop, I expect you could easily expand on the harmonic content. This is only the beginning, right?

Also, this is what you wrote. If you're happy with it, and are confident and proud of it, then nobody can tell you otherwise. You won't please everyone - it's not possible.

Have you played this for your professor(s) yet?