Elegy and Dance for Viola and Piano

Hey raining-hail! The recording seems to be working fine as far as I can tell - just click play song, and a pop-up window should come up. It's nice to have my thread bumped!

The score was actually done in lilypond, a free program that produces beautiful results but is very hard to use and learn. Still if the appearance is what matters to you I recommend giving it a go.

Thanks for looking, it's nice to see some interest in my stuff!

Originally Posted by matt.kaner

Hey raining-hail! The recording seems to be working fine as far as I can tell - just click play song, and a pop-up window should come up. It's nice to have my thread bumped!

The score was actually done in lilypond, a free program that produces beautiful results but is very hard to use and learn. Still if the appearance is what matters to you I recommend giving it a go.

Thanks for looking, it's nice to see some interest in my stuff!

I managed to get it working! Your piece on listening to it isn't entirely my cup of tea (if you have heard my new work in progress, you might understand why.) However I did enjoy you work.

Thank you for the link about lilypond. Once I have finished composing this latest work, I will try it out. Might help in getting my lecturers to chose my work .

I am guessing from you response to one of my threads, your a postgrad(?). Where do you study and with whom?

EDIT - WOAH just seen what Lilypond is like Give me about a month and I'll have worked out how to write C major scales

Hey.

Still undergrad actually at KCL - 3rd year, and have just been offered a place on the MMus at Guildhall...

Originally Posted by matt.kaner

Hey.

Still undergrad actually at KCL - 3rd year, and have just been offered a place on the MMus at Guildhall...

Hey that's great! Contrats!

Do you have other work on this site? I would be interested in listening to it.

Hmmm...the Elegy reminds me of the Serenade from Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire, except the Serenade is more normal (you should take that as a compliment).

Wow, this is old! How did I manage to dredge this up?

Lol well thanks very much for finding it! I suppose the language is quite dense like in Pierrot!

Matt

wow! That's a great piece. It's definitely something that needs real performers. And they did a great job too. If you don't mind my asking, how did you go about composing this? There is a real sense of continuity in your sonorities. The score was quite beautiful, another great case for lilypond. I can't write directly into lilypond, but I'm using it to re-engrave something I made in Finale. It really isn't so bad at all to learn, especially if you have previous experience with a scripting or programming language.

Wow, now THAT is quality work! I can't get enough of this piece.

I used to hang out these forums a few years ago and got sort of... bored...but your piece itself is going to be responsible for keeping me around for a while longer.

So many things to say, but I really thought your glissandos were very effective, and you either have a very good understanding of the instrument or else you had a very good viola player to work with while writing this piece.

I read in an earlier post that you only had a very short time to write this...sometimes that is when we write out best works. Back in college, the large ensemble pieces I had performed were the pieces I wrote in only a few days. The smaller pieces I took a lot of time on never made it beyond the professor's desk...Weird how that works.

I also want to piggyback on something Nightscape said about the continuity in your sonorities. So often people think that "modern" or "atonal" music is simply random notes in effort to avoid a tonic, but that isn't really what atonal music is and your piece demonstrates that. Or did you just get lucky and we are digging into this piece way too deeply?

Originally Posted by Nightscape

wow! That's a great piece. It's definitely something that needs real performers. And they did a great job too. If you don't mind my asking, how did you go about composing this? There is a real sense of continuity in your sonorities. The score was quite beautiful, another great case for lilypond. I can't write directly into lilypond, but I'm using it to re-engrave something I made in Finale. It really isn't so bad at all to learn, especially if you have previous experience with a scripting or programming language.

How do you re-engrave into lilypond? I love the look of music produced in lilypond - it looks a lot more professional than Sibelius 5.

Sorry for the late replies! I had no idea people would be so interested in this piece. Thanks very much Sonata and Nightscape, I really appreciate your comments and it's so great to know people have enjoyed my piece so much!

It was quite a long time ago now (April 07), so I can't exactly remember how I did it, but as far as the viola line is concerned, I think I just started out with the C#-D-F#-C# motive and played around with developing it, mostly at the piano to begin with, which got me up to about bar 14. Then once I got to the cadenza, I came up with a sort of chart, all based on the opening shapes and intervals, and I guess I came up with quite arch-shape phrases without really thinking about it.

Then in the tango I just recycled most of those ideas, but put them into a different order, and concentrated very hard on getting the kind of rhythms I needed to make it exciting, stealing a lot them from Piazzolla, but slicing them up and rearranging them as I went along, as well making up some of my own.

I guess the main thing when I wrote it was that I was very aware of what I wanted it to 'feel' like, before writing much down. I wanted the viola part to sound very lyrical and free in the elegy, and for the lines to sound very continuous and expressive. Later when writing the tango I knew I had to use the same material, but I wanted it to still feel quite dark, but exciting and perhaps a little bit sentimental in a kind of nostalgic, over-the-top sort of way. I remember I actually found it sounded quite funny to put those sorts of harmonies with the rhythms I was using - like in bar 18 for example.

In the end I was very happy with the results though... And I'm so glad you've all thought that too. My girlfriend (who used to listen to lots of tango, she'd learnt to dance in Argentina) who it was sort of dedicated to (I only told her when I knew she liked it) thinks of it as a kind of parody of the intense pride and emotion that you find in the style. But this is all b*llsh*t, I think that my own analysis is only as valid as the next person's!

So pleased it's caught people's ears like this!!