Exploration Of chords in Bb

Hello people,

This is the product of my exploration, haven't really gave it a programmic name yet. I think it really is the start of a new direction of my writing journey. yeah, all the works previously done were, seriously, Pop (aka. Dead tonal?) and whatever.

Please forgive me, yeah, I don't really take theory lessons, nor am I talented, but I just love to write music.


This piece was written with a Improvisation of the Chords in the beginning of I-VI-ii-V-I, quite a departure from my usual dead style of I-IV- blah blah. and ermm, it is written in an A-B-A form...

It is written for a piano, violin and cello, but I am seriously thinking that this piece sounds jazzy? (I did not intend it to sound that way, but yeah...)



Okay, I shan't say of the piece anymore, but yeah, please feel free to comment and critique this piece, in anyway, any form of thought/school etc, as I think I really need a lot of feedback.

Thanks a lot beforehand, and I know I hadn't been active in this forum (mostly because I don't know how to contribute....), but ill appreciate really, if you will take the time to say your take about this piece!


EDIT: Removed PIC LINKS; used CutePdf!


PS: sorry for the lack of PDF files, I concurrently use a composer program that does not really export files into PDF files, and hence I need to take screenshots. Btw, The name of the program is called "MidiNotate".

Gonna upgrade to Finale soon.

Pop (aka. Dead tonal?)

Lol.

Wow, there were some really pleasing moments in this. I disagree that you are not talented, you obviously have a very imaginitive ear, and admirable self-control to stick to your own agenda of self-improvement. The melodies are especially pleasing (especially the one from b.43), and yes, you've certainly departed from I-IV-V - your harmonic ideas and imagination are really interesting and engaging. I love the counterplay between the violin and piano RH, it's very pleasing. The waltzy motif in the LH is stylistic but occasionally gets a bit monotonous - though the interesting chords goes some way to redeem this, like in the final four bars - such that when b.26 comes, there's a tangible sense of relief, lol. (For me anyway). Perhaps a bit more variation of this sort would retain interest more - especially between the two main themes?

But overall I though this was lovely, well done.

(PS. are you sure you can't put it in .pdf? If it's your .pdf writer try CutePDF. They are meant to be able to convert any printable document. Forgive me if you know this already, but there isn't any 'exporting' involved, you just tell it to print and select your .pdf writer from the list of printers).

Originally Posted by Terve

Lol.

Wow, there were some really pleasing moments in this. I disagree that you are not talented, you obviously have a very imaginitive ear, and admirable self-control to stick to your own agenda of self-improvement. The melodies are especially pleasing (especially the one from b.43), and yes, you've certainly departed from I-IV-V - your harmonic ideas and imagination are really interesting and engaging. I love the counterplay between the violin and piano RH, it's very pleasing. The waltzy motif in the LH is stylistic but occasionally gets a bit monotonous - though the interesting chords goes some way to redeem this, like in the final four bars - such that when b.26 comes, there's a tangible sense of relief, lol. (For me anyway). Perhaps a bit more variation of this sort would retain interest more - especially between the two main themes?

But overall I though this was lovely, well done.

(PS. are you sure you can't put it in .pdf? If it's your .pdf writer try CutePDF. They are meant to be able to convert any printable document. Forgive me if you know this already, but there isn't any 'exporting' involved, you just tell it to print and select your .pdf writer from the list of printers).

Hey terve;
Thanks for taking your time to review my piece. I very much appreciate that! Also, thanks for your compliments! It made me a little warm inside.

Yes, thanks alot, I just did that. Thankfully I googled it. Nah I did'nt know that, thanks for telling!


Ill take your comments and work on them! Thanks really!

Hi there. Interesting piece. At the tempo at which you've chosen to record the midi it sounds (to me) almost like a sophisticated form of carnival music.

-Repetition of the theme in more than one key
-Extravagant accompaniment
-Tempo

The little pseudo fugal tease in the middle gives us a welcome pause from all the action but we're quickly back in familiar territory.

My one complaint would be that this piece never sufficiently deviates with what we're introduced to at the beginning so that the piece remains interesting from beginning to end. Having said that, what we are introduced to in the beginning is itself quite a journey so when we do hear it again we might still hear something new.

Hey Seraphim,

Firstly, thanks for your review! I really appreciated that.

-The tempo it is written at was actually faster when I first heard it in my mind yeah. I think it should be acceptable, but pray, is it too fast?

-Repetition of theme in more than one key ( errr... Im not sure whether What you meant by this, would you mind elaborating? )

-Extravagant Accompaniment ( er... again, sorry but yeah, You mind elaborating? Or rather explain, for I er don't know what youre pointing towards... )



Actually, I might be inclined to say that the tempation to "cut and paste" the accompaniment and ornate just the piano right hand was too great, but I realised that It has produced a rather sloppy work. I am sorry for that, yeah.


For the Pseudo Fugue, er... I dint intend it to be a fugue, but the problem is what, erm, did you mean by pseudo? (pardon me, my english is not strong..)




Thanks alot, once again, and I do really hope you can reply to my questions!

Originally Posted by david ckwee

Hey Seraphim,

Firstly, thanks for your review! I really appreciated that.

-The tempo it is written at was actually faster when I first heard it in my mind yeah. I think it should be acceptable, but pray, is it too fast?

-Repetition of theme in more than one key ( errr... Im not sure whether What you meant by this, would you mind elaborating? )

-Extravagant Accompaniment ( er... again, sorry but yeah, You mind elaborating? Or rather explain, for I er don't know what youre pointing towards... )



Actually, I might be inclined to say that the tempation to "cut and paste" the accompaniment and ornate just the piano right hand was too great, but I realised that It has produced a rather sloppy work. I am sorry for that, yeah.


For the Pseudo Fugue, er... I dint intend it to be a fugue, but the problem is what, erm, did you mean by pseudo? (pardon me, my english is not strong..)




Thanks alot, once again, and I do really hope you can reply to my questions!

1) It's quite common for composers to go too fast in tempo. They know the music so well that what might seem like a fast tempo to others seems normal to them.

2) The jump to a higher key to replay the initial "subject"

3) Not necessarily a bad thing. I actually like it alot. I simply meant that the accompaniment draws a lot of attention to itself.

4) It doesnt really sound sloppy but it does feel like it lacks variety. For some kinds of pieces this is ok. Pachelbels canon has the same eight notes run as accompaniment through the entire piece over and over and over ...

5) Pseudo means fake or false. I simply meant that it hinted at a fugal section when the second voice appeared to mimic the first.

I hope I've made sense to you.

hey seraphim:

Thanks for clarifying, really.

1) hmm, I did'nt know that, but well, i think it is still performable, is it not?

2) errr, is the transposition compulsory?

3) oh, i did not meant for any part to have less melodic material. I always strive to incoporate melodic parts, so yes, it is somewhat polyphony, i guess? (other than the left hand of the piano, which only plays harmony..)

4) yeah, I will look to this when I revamp the piece over. =/

5) wow, but er, how d'you pronounce it?


Yeah you did, totally, thanks.


PS: oh, I just saw I wrote accompaniment, but yeah, thats a mistake somewhat. Technically there cant be a accompaniment to nothing, can it?

Pseudo is pronounced sudo (like judo).

Don't preface your piece with "I'm not talented."

Ok, it does not sound 'jazzy' but indeed much more like carnival music.
This is because of your three note piano left hand pattern.
I feel a lot of the feeling of the piece right now will be different if you change the left hand or start varying some of the themes.
Much less carnival-ish.

Certainly fun to listen to, especially at the tempo.

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Pseudo is pronounced sudo (like judo).

Thanks!

Originally Posted by aneapolitanwouldwork

Don't preface your piece with "I'm not talented."

Er, to you, it may seem retarded, but why not? I really think I lack talent....

Originally Posted by aneapolitanwouldwork

Ok, it does not sound 'jazzy' but indeed much more like carnival music.
This is because of your three note piano left hand pattern.
I feel a lot of the feeling of the piece right now will be different if you change the left hand or start varying some of the themes.
Much less carnival-ish.

Certainly fun to listen to, especially at the tempo.

hmmmm Phew, I was kind of afraid as I thought I used too much chromatism. But Im glad it turned out unjazzy.

hmmm.... Actually, the piano left hand keeps the rhythm... I cant see anyother way to keep the rhythm, er, you might suggest one?