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Old Jan 30 2008, 8:23 AM

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Also, maybe a small monothematic piano piece that doesn't exceed a certain number of measures or something, then the challenge would be to have variation, without the option of two contrasting themes that is afforded by sonata form or similar
What about a non-thematic piano piece, without barlines? That would be more of a challenge, and something most people from here haven't tried before
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Old Jan 30 2008, 3:24 PM

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An interesting idea. I would suggest that that could be done for not just piano, but a chamber group, but that would be very hard to play... without bar lines and all. I like the no barlines idea, I've never tried that. And I like the non-thematic idea too, too many a time do I come up with great material but I can't fit it into a piece, this would be a great opportunity to compose this 'musical melting pot'.
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Old Jan 30 2008, 4:53 PM

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What about a non-thematic piano piece, without barlines? That would be more of a challenge, and something most people from here haven't tried before
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An interesting idea. I would suggest that that could be done for not just piano, but a chamber group, but that would be very hard to play... without bar lines and all. I like the no barlines idea, I've never tried that. And I like the non-thematic idea too, too many a time do I come up with great material but I can't fit it into a piece, this would be a great opportunity to compose this 'musical melting pot'.
Wonderful idea, 4th Nomination. ONE MORE!!
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Old Jan 30 2008, 7:09 PM

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An interesting idea. I would suggest that that could be done for not just piano, but a chamber group
Why do you guys have to enlarge the ensembles all the time? I think it's going to be more of a challenge if for once you're trying out something that's more difficult for you to write, or if you don't find it more difficult, at least stick with the smaller ensembles for the competitions. They are more fair as more people can attempt to write them, while not everyone will be so prone to write a symphony or a chamber piece.
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Old Jan 30 2008, 9:41 PM

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free form piece for a instrument of choosing and paino, this could leave many possibilities and possible increase participation.......

just an idea

I like the 2 month deal also, it will probably increase participation as well
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Old Jan 30 2008, 9:43 PM

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k, that's five nominations!!! I will post the voting thread soon!
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Why do you guys have to enlarge the ensembles all the time? I think it's going to be more of a challenge if for once you're trying out something that's more difficult for you to write, or if you don't find it more difficult, at least stick with the smaller ensembles for the competitions. They are more fair as more people can attempt to write them, while not everyone will be so prone to write a symphony or a chamber piece.
Not to argue, but I find myself on the contrary... I have a hard time writing for small ensembles, I have a hard time overcoming the limitations. I tend to gravitate to much larger ensembles which open my mind with endless possibilities. Just thought I'd stick my two cents in.
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Old Jan 30 2008, 9:57 PM

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All composers are different, that is why we started the Monthly competitions: so we could have many different options for different types of composers to try and compete (in a friendly manner) and learn from each other. There is no point in doing 2 competitions a year and having both HUGE pieces, therefore cutting out a WHOLE genre and experience level of composers.
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Old Jan 31 2008, 8:04 AM

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Not to argue, but I find myself on the contrary... I have a hard time writing for small ensembles, I have a hard time overcoming the limitations. I tend to gravitate to much larger ensembles which open my mind with endless possibilities. Just thought I'd stick my two cents in.
Exactly, you can't write pieces for just a few instruments, which is the reason you should be writing them. Writing pieces for bigger ensembles doesn't make you a better composer, and what's more, if you're writing pieces for small ensembles or even solo/duets you have more chances of getting them performed. Don't forget that some composers never composed symphonies, like Debussy. He composed a few orchestral works, but no symphonies. Bartok didn't write any symphonies. He wrote a concerto for orchestra, but no symphonies. Schoenberg wrote two chamber symphonies, but no orchestral ones. Birtwistle hasn't written any symphonies, and he is considered to be one of the biggest figures in contemporary british music. So why would you want to write a symphony? You think it's easier to write a symphony, but in fact it's not, because to write for a small ensemble you really have to know a lot of things about all the instruments involved, and that is the same case with the symphony, but you don't care about the individual techniques, characteristics, playing of each instrument, you just care about what you hear in finale and that's it. This is why you think writing for a smaller ensemble is more difficult, but you should start from there working your way to bigger ensembles, just like you wouldn't start writing a novel in 2nd grade, or you wouldn't design a 100-floor skyscraper as your first building were you an architect.
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Old Jan 31 2008, 9:20 AM

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On a different note... can I enter as a participant...?
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