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Old Jun 28 2006, 8:35 AM

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I really can't understand you guys, slaves to technology rushed out under this gold-rush mentality. Finale's been on the go for several years and if they knew enough about music to justify doing it at all they could have got it right first go.

You got some really sharp practicers there all right!
They know how to get you hooked and dependent.

And there they sit on their bums saying "Of course we'll meet the deadline, we just won't test it - let the sucker users do that - we'll soon find out what doesn't work from their emails."
"But they're composers! Won't they get held up waiting to us to get it right?"
"Hah! Sod composers, let's worry about the money! And while you're at it, downgrade a couple of components so we can re-upgrade them next year. You know what they're like, they go glaze-eyed!"

Sorry, a non-starter with me. Finale 2006 can't put my latest scores together so why should I chance 2007?
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Old Jun 28 2006, 8:40 AM
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Finale may have bugs, but I don't exactly have an entire orchestra sitting in my room waiting to play whatever I write down. I like the ability to write music and scan it in, I like to hear it with realistic sound, and because I'm constantly changing things, I love the flexability. Besides, if you can't live with the 'rush the software out the door' mentality, you wont' be using any technology for long. That's the mentality of the industry now. People wants things and they want them NOW!
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Old Jun 28 2006, 8:53 AM

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The more you allow them to manage your expectations down, the more they will and get away with it (a very familiar concept in the business environment in which I work).

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Finale may have bugs, but I don't exactly have an entire orchestra sitting in my room waiting to play whatever I write down.[/b]
My, oh my, does finale give you that?
Cwahhh!
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Besides, if you can't live with the 'rush the software out the door' mentality, you wont' be using any technology for long. That's the mentality of the industry now. People wants things and they want them NOW!
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Not an attitude I subscribe to, hence avoiding dependence on technology wherever possible. I hate parting with my cash on a dependence thing especially when, all it does, is make a simple thing complicated.

Good grief, they'll be offering programs that compose FOR you next and kidding you it's your work! And just beyond that....they're working on a microphone that actually does the listening for you... Suddenly...you're redundant.

No, seriously, it's no use to me as it can't represent what I want to write, how I want to write it.

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Old Jun 28 2006, 8:57 AM
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My, oh my, does finale give you that? Cwahhh!

Good grief, they'll be offering programs that compose FOR you next and kidding you it's your work! And just beyond that....they're working on a microphone that actually does the listening for you... Suddenly...you're redundant.

Heard of Garritan Personal Orchestra? Damn realistic.

Now, unless you personally are the majority of people buying software, there's nothing you can do to change the trend. You're not the majority. The majority will buy buggy, rushed software, and the industry caters to the people that give them the most money. It's "a very familiar concept in the business environment in which I work"

And, ever heard of auto-harmonize and auto-orchestrate? Both plug-ins for finale. Useful for people who can't harmonize (although why they'd bother is beyond me).
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Old Jun 28 2006, 9:01 AM

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Old Jun 28 2006, 9:04 AM
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The feature I'm most excited about is linked parts and exploding divisi into multiple parts from 'extract part'. I like to write in condesned scoring when I can, but being able to generate pull parts is nice.
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Old Jun 28 2006, 9:56 AM
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Nope, not again! I've jumped off this bandwagon!
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Old Jun 28 2006, 10:23 AM

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I like my Finale '04... yeah, I'm old school, lol.

I'm too lazy to find an upgrade... and I personally don't know if I want to spend the money to buy '06. I have a limited amount of money, and I spend that on my instruments.
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Old Jun 28 2006, 4:24 PM
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I prefer Sibelius anyhow, but I do respect the fact that they only put out new versions when they actually have a good deal of things to update, not just every year because people will keep buying it...which greatly echoes the point that montpellier was making...

Finale 2006 just came out!!! What the hell. I really would not buy a new version, even for a lower upgrade price, after less than a year than the previous version. To me, 2005 really did not seem all that different from 06 anyway. What can they do that Sibelius hasn't already done, anyway? And by that, I mean what can they do that is actually useful and easy to use that Sibelius hasn't already??

Don't waste your money, people. Wait 'til 08, it'll seem like more of an improvement.

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Old Jun 28 2006, 5:04 PM

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I cannot possibly upgrade every year. Do you guys really get the new version everytime it comes out? I cannot afford to pay that much money. I am still stuck on the 2004 version which kinda sucks because I cannot open up new files past my version. I think that I might upgrade to 2007 this time, but I have to at least wait the three years. I cannot believe so many of you have 2006 already. It seems like I just my 2006 brochure in the mail yesterday. I am really thinking of it because of the GPO. I would love to hear my music played back like that. I think that it would give a composer more inspiration. Anyways, thanks Marius for the info and the link.
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