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Old Jan 17 2008, 10:21 PM

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Fugue For Flute And Cello Please give feedback

I hope my fugal writing has improved, hope you like it


SimenN - Fugue D Minor for Flute and Cello.mid
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Old Apr 26 2008, 4:11 PM

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First of all, the subject is very creative !
yould make more passages that imitate the subject, and if you want add a third voice to increase the diversity of the piece.
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Old Apr 26 2008, 6:23 PM

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This is a big step up from the last contrapuntal compositions I've heard of yours.

Pragmatically, I think the subject is slightly too long, but the counterpoint's interesting. It improves as the piece progresses. There are a few stylistic errors (mainly in melodic shaping), but over time these will probably be ironed out. I also think it's more of an invention than a fugue; two-voice fugues need to be incredibly well crafted in order to sound like fugues, and I think this sounds like more of an invention - perhaps fugato or fughetta as a halfway house.
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Old Apr 26 2008, 9:02 PM

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In the age if samplers why on earth would someone wanna compose with midi sounds??
here's your thing to get the idea:

zSHARE - fugue in d for flute and cello.mp3

why on earth would someone wanna compose a baroque fugue that's a different question. nice piece by the way!
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Old Apr 26 2008, 9:06 PM

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one more thing: you exceed flute range at one point with a D6. the highest note that the flute can play is C6 !!!
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Old Apr 27 2008, 8:18 AM

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Thank you fellas, this is old works, but thanks for comment!
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Old Apr 27 2008, 8:52 AM

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the sort of thing you did in the penultimate measure (the last measure before your final chord) of this piece is the sort of counterpoint/harmony error I've noticed you do awful lot of.
You have on the last beat of the penultimate measure the bass part going:
A - G - F - C --- to the final D

What is the harmony on that last beat?
It seems to imply D minor 2nd inversion.
But you pop in a C natural? why?

Besides, why have a D minor chord as the chord leading into a... D minor chord??? Why not an actual cadential chord? A7 maybe?

How do you justify the C# rubbing at the same time as the C natural?

Even if we ONLY look at the cello and flute parts: how do you justify F against C#? what chord is that supposed to be? Would that TRULY be a cadential chord?

The D minor implication you have in that last chord of that measure is the sort of harmonic appogiatura I was talking about earlier. You do a lot of that. It's bad, m'kay? Don't do that.

You really need to be doing some straight-forward counterpoint and harmony exercises. (particularly before arguing against John Cage)
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Old Apr 27 2008, 9:09 AM

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Thank you QcC ill work on that
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Old Apr 27 2008, 12:37 PM
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OK. First off, yeah, this isn't a fugue. It's barely near an invention, and much more like a simple imitation with sequences.

I found that having a harpsichord here was really really weird. I thought it was just for Flute and Cello!

A harpsichord if this were a fugue would be treated like at least 2 more independent voices, never as a doubling instrument even if we're taking about cyphered bass (basso continuo.) Moreover, doubling at the octave like that is very strange altogether. I'd understand doing this in an orchestral piece, and such other cases, but here in what is essentially chamber music, it sounds really unnecessary.

I rather have this piece without the harpsichord, it works much better. Plus, like QCC said there are some rather strange errors like the natural C before the last chord.

Also, he never exceeds the flute range, as far as I can tell. It's just REALLY uncomfortable to play that high. When writing this sort of thing you can't just treat the instruments as if they can play their entire register evenly and uniformly. There are some things which are a lot harder to play than others, specially if you want to get any sort of meaningful sound out of it.

Though, I think the counterpoint itself isn't bad, the subject is really really long, and I wouldn't recommend something like unless you've had plenty of experience beforehand. Again, like QCC, this stuff can't be tackled from the get-go properly if you don't have groundwork for the above reasons. Plus, you need to really know what the instruments are capable of and how to write for them, even if you're doing something Baroque.

Another thing, is the flute here supposed to be a recorder? Or a traverse flute? If it's "in-style" it'd have to be a recorder, and there you'd fly out of range really quickly.
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Old Apr 27 2008, 1:12 PM

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The flute range is from middle C up three octaves. no matter how hard one blows it, it won't make that D6.
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