Fugue For Flute And Cello Please give feedback

Originally Posted by maaton

The flute range is from middle C up three octaves. no matter how hard one blows it, it won't make that D6.

Not to start any arguments here, but:

there IS a fingering for that high D, so it is technically PART of the flute's range, albeit the extreme.

And the low range CAN extend to a B just below middle C if you have the "patte de si" extension.

However, the point here being that the extreme high note isn't being approached in a realistic fashion, and in strictly "baroque" terms, it is not part of the flute register.

Originally Posted by maaton

The flute range is from middle C up three octaves. no matter how hard one blows it, it won't make that D7.

D7 is definitely within the range of the flute, but I wouldn't recommend writing it for anyone less than a professional... it's extremely difficult to get the note out.

Personally, I can play up to an E7, but I immensely dislike doing so. Eb7 and E7 are a full order of magnitude harder to play than the D7. The D7 (and C#7) are much more difficult than the C7.

As a rule of thumb, C7 should be the upper limit unless you a) know the flutist, b) are a flutist yourself, or c) can truly justify having to exceed the practical range of the flute (i.e., it's part of the line or it fits the music)

EDIT: I entered the wrong octave indicators... fixed.

To follow up:

I just played along with the MIDI file in Finale and the flute part is fine. The jump from A6 to D7 is slightly awkward but playable. As QC indicated, it's not particularly idiomatic to "baroque" music.

I would like to see more rhythmic deviation. I realize you're working on fugue technique, but I'd like to see more interesting figurations and even pauses.

Keep it up!


EDIT: I entered the wrong octave indicators... fixed.

Originally Posted by flint-wwrr

D6 is definitely within the range of the flute, but I wouldn't recommend writing it for anyone less than a professional... it's extremely difficult to get the note out.

Personally, I can play up to an E6, but I immensely dislike doing so. Eb6 and E6 are a full order of magnitude harder to play than the D6. The D6 (and C#6) are much more difficult than the C6.

As a rule of thumb, C6 should be the upper limit unless you a) know the flutist, b) are a flutist yourself, or c) can truly justify having to exceed the practical range of the flute (i.e., it's part of the line or it fits the music)

allright i was exaggerating. all i wanted to say that it exceeds the OFFICIAL flute range. i'm a cellist and i can squeak up to high violin range but i wouldn't compose anything there....

With this thread as inspiration, I've updated the Young Composer's Wiki article on the Flute.

Flute

Thanks Flint - and thanks for letting me know for definite that my recent changes wiki thing isn't working. *wonders off, calling for Mike*

Your counterpoint has improved a lot! Remember to close some phrases (cadences) throughout your contrapunctal composition. It really helps to stop and start back up when it comes to these subject and answer pieces.

I have noticed a lot of your baroque forms lately, and I think you should try your hand at passacaglia some time.

Thank you John! yes i will do that but i dont know how to make one? can you help me?

On that note, this is rather interesting courtesy of Zetetic

Passacaglia & Fugue BWV 582

i like this piece but it doesn't seem like a fugue so much to me either, i think more voiced particullary 4 would make it more like a fugue.