How can I move on from Bach?

Haha

Originally Posted by Gardener

Being normal would mean to mostly listen to the top charts music! Hmm... I'd rather listen to Bach

You know what I meant silly!

Love in the club is amazing though!!

RLLY!!!

J/k... I'm not that gay.

Originally Posted by maelstromtempest

That's just my opinon... as i said earlier. And yes, I believe that with GOOD reason. I, personally, am not emotionally affected by ANY of his violin concertos, fugues, inventions, violin partitas, and other concertos (including Brandenburg). And, yes, contrary to public notion, I HAVE listened to all of these. I like it. It's just not powerful, in my opinion.

You aren't affected by the ciaccona?
Silly boy... That is pretty emotional shit.

no, i am not affected by the chaconne. It is... too technical for me. The long section in the middle with the 32nd sextuplets or whatever... It is useless in my mind. The whole piece lacks weight.

Originally Posted by maelstromtempest

no, i am not affected by the chaconne. It is... too technical for me. The long section in the middle with the 32nd sextuplets or whatever... It is useless in my mind. The whole piece lacks weight.

Could you elaborate on "weight?"
Could the technique possibly be skewing your judgement because it is overwhelming?
The middle is just blocked chords that the player can arpeggiate anyway he or she pleases... So that isn't really Bach doing that.

Exactly. What is it besides chords... what meaning does it give? It is just a variation of the melody. Again, It is MY opinion. MY opinion isn't easily changed. Weight = depth of thinking = versatility of emotion = emotional coherence.

*sigh*

What's the rest of classical music if not chords, notes assigned one on top of another or one next to another? And what meaning does baroque/classical/romantic music have beyond that? And what makes you believe that ALL music is to be judged under the scope of emotional and expression? I would never try that with a piece by Feldman, or a piece by Cage, or even a piece by Ives? And what if I told you that in Webern's pieces there is a lot of emotion? You'd tell me I am crazy, so this makes it not even emotion, but rather what *your* perception of emotion is, and how and *if* you can perceive this "emotionality" in a piece of music. So you're judging all music under some criteria which are highly flawed in terms of objectivity, or even subjectivity

Sound's like a fun conversation is coming up >_>

Originally Posted by jujimufu

*sigh*

What's the rest of classical music if not chords, notes assigned one on top of another or one next to another? And what meaning does baroque/classical/romantic music have beyond that? And what makes you believe that ALL music is to be judged under the scope of emotional and expression? I would never try that with a piece by Feldman, or a piece by Cage, or even a piece by Ives? And what if I told you that in Webern's pieces there is a lot of emotion? You'd tell me I am crazy, so this makes it not even emotion, but rather what *your* perception of emotion is, and how and *if* you can perceive this "emotionality" in a piece of music. So you're judging all music under some criteria which are highly flawed in terms of objectivity, or even subjectivity

Sound's like a fun conversation is coming up >_>

I agree. I mean, I like everything... I'm a really open person. People let socially constructed things... even with aesthetics in music affect them too much.

People focus too much on the Romantic era in my opinion.

It really isn't even fair to compare composers... the quality and variance within one composers own works almost outweigh the differences between that composer and another.

It is a perception issue with people... not anything with objectivity.

At least the idea borders some where in the land of subjectivity... albeit on the faaar borders.

Originally Posted by jujimufu

Sound's like a fun conversation is coming up >_>

I like your optimism!

Originally Posted by jujimufu

...this makes it not even emotion, but rather what *your* perception of emotion is, and how and *if* you can perceive this "emotionality" in a piece of music.

Whose perception, exactly, do you propose he base his opinion on, if not his own?