How to improve piano tehnique

I have really bad piano tehnique. I ve been playing piano for 7 years, and then i stop. Now, after 2 years i start playing it again and i forgot tehnique. Plus, last 2 years when i was playing piano i barely practice at all=( So not much practice in last 4 years....
However, now i have motivation and im visiting teacher again.
I am playing pieces for 3th-7th grade, easy song and harder, like mozart, but my tehnique skills probaly arent on grade 7 level...

What counts as tehnique and how can i improve it, except with scales and etude?

thanks for help

can't really help because same thing happened to me...played for 6 or so years (left off starting Beethoven's Pathetique) quit for a couple and lost all my technique...think you'll be better off with this in the performance thread though

Originally Posted by Rain

What counts as tehnique and how can i improve it, except with scales and etude?

Practice?

Seriously...I'm not trying to be an ass. The only way to improve technical facility is to practice. Etudes, while often devoid of musicality, exist for exactly your purpose - they're exercises, which you'll need to do in order to improve.

True. Though there is effective practice, and useless practice, which I'm finding as I slowly bring back what little dexterity I worked up as a teenager.

My story is similar to the others, except that I never had much of a foundation to begin with. I had two years of piano lessons from age 8 to 10, then because my parents divorced I had no access to a piano until I was 13; from there I started all over on my own and taught myself everything I know, because my mother couldn't give me any more lessons (not looking for sympathy...that's just my story). I can play quite musically, but I never developed any discipline for hard work on etudes, nor have I ever known what etudes I should be practicing or HOW to practice properly.

Hence it took me a full year to learn a moderately difficult Haydn sonata, and I'm still not 100% there technically. Just what does one practice to learn such a thing in the way of etudes? I figured since Czerny studied with Beethoven, who in turn studied with Haydn (though not keyboard...Beethoven could have taught Haydn a thing or two there), maybe he was a good place to start. But I must have been practicing it incorrectly, because I got very little out of it hammering away at Czerny but tendonitis. It's frustrating.

I suppose I need a teacher to show me what I may be doing wrong and give me some guidance and crack a whip over me.

Originally Posted by robinjessome

Practice?

Seriously...I'm not trying to be an ass. The only way to improve technical facility is to practice. Etudes, while often devoid of musicality, exist for exactly your purpose - they're exercises, which you'll need to do in order to improve.

Well i know that
But its important how you practice, right?
I mean i read a book which says that its not good to play by intuition, that means that its not good to play slow ht and speed up.... books says that first you need lot of hand seperate practice and play it together when you know notes really well....
And thanks for all replys

For crying out loud.
If you want to improve your keyboard technique, find a teacher and do what your teacher says.

No one on an internet forum is going to give you the magic answer.

And if you want to know how to improve your technique WITHOUT use etudes and scales, well, change hobbies. Scales and studies are the basic elements of technical improvement. They are designed to improve technique.

Fine, learn a Mozart sonata that has the same scale over and over in it.. you'll get really good at that single scale. When you come to learn a Beethoven piece, that has a different scale, well, you're going to have to work just as hard, and start from scratch, relearning everything you had already learned through that Mozart piece.

Instead, do a study. It contains pretty much all the permutations of a single passage. Once you can play that etude properly, well, there you go... never again wil you have to "relearn" a passage containing that figuration. Your hand has learned the mechanics of it.

But ignore my advice, I'm sure you'll get lots more advice that you'd much rather hear. Stuff that sounds way more cool and lots more fun.

^What he said. I'm kinda in the same boat you are. I played piano when I was younger but quit serious study for a few years. I got a great teacher a few months ago and I'm back to where I was and then some.