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Old Jan 23 2008, 3:55 PM

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Unless we're talking about improvisation
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Old Jan 23 2008, 7:37 PM

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Music that is purely used for the purpose of social wank, with no effort or time spent on the piece is not music.
Wow, I bet you're just the life of the party, aren't ya? And I thought I was a tight ass.
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Old Jan 26 2008, 8:17 AM

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[quote=Jamie Whitmarsh;202851]I think this is a worthless argument, as all music has merit, and to attempt to disparage that would require both an ego and an ignorance of extreme magnitude.QUOTE]

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Old Jan 26 2008, 10:00 AM

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Oh please, not all music has merit. What about the guy who wrote that shitty 9/11 song?

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Old Jan 26 2008, 1:49 PM

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Oh please, not all music has merit. What about the guy who wrote that shitty 9/11 song?

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I assume you are being facetious?
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Old Jan 26 2008, 2:13 PM

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Old Jan 26 2008, 2:48 PM

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There is no scientific way of knowing what is good and bad music.

The reason for this is that music is not a cultural absolute in the sense that everyone plays within the "tonal" or "dodecaphonic" systems. These systems are based on artificial hierarchies placed upon sound wavelengths, based on mathematical relationships laid out by Plato and Aristotle (the former for the math, the latter for the hierarchy of tones). While the mathematical relationship certainly exists, it's not the only set, and deciding that one set of relationships is important and "good" while the others are not is ridiculous. For example, what about African music? Different tuning systems abound throughout Africa and the Middle East, and all of that music is for social purposes - either ritual, or entertainment, or to send messages.

And honestly, ArcticWind17 -
you call yourself a composition student - and yet you close yourself off to a huge range of music because it's used for "social wank" and naught else. Do you actually ENJOY music? Or do you, like a pick-up artist, only pursue it because controlling it makes you feel good about yourself?

It just seems like the real wankery is to declare yourself above certain types of music simply because it's not designed for a concert hall. It comes across as elitist, west-centric, closed-minded, and, honestly, stupid.
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Old Jan 26 2008, 3:02 PM

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There is some pop music I really like, and then some that I don't like so much. Same with classical.
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Old Jan 26 2008, 6:52 PM

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Oh please, not all music has merit. What about the guy who wrote that shitty 9/11 song?

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I don't EVER- and I mean EVER- want to hear you say that again.
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I don't EVER- and I mean EVER- want to hear you say that again.


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