I hate pop music

now mainstream music is pretty horrible ill admit that.

However there is alot of experimental music out there that is very cool.

Also there is alot of folk music that is very cool too and the older alternative music is pretty decent.

just my .2 cents. Dont bash me

However in the end I think I prefer jazz over almsot everything.

It saddens me that this thread exists.

WHY?!?!?!? Why is is thread bumped again?!?!?!? Such an ugly thread in all acounts! Please leave it to die! Please! (So, I'm with eldkatt on this one)

Hahaha... you're funn---

Omg...

I bumped it...

What have I done?!

I think that while this thread is ugly in parts, I think it's also beneficial.
First, it might bring in others who hate pop music, and while SOME members are unable to listen to the logic and reasoning behind why all music has merit, some others may not be so pigheaded.
Second, this (among several other threads of equal ugliness) helps teach one how NOT to discuss differing opinions on the internet. It helps one further define what they're trying to say. It seems that 90% of the time, most disagreements are a matter of vernacular choice. If one says "All music has this element" you're going to get ripped. However, if you say "It seems to me that all music has this element" you're still going to get ripped, but in a more respectful manner. Through all the pain and anger that these threads cause, composers grow, both by being exposed to others' viewpoints and by further understanding of what their own viewpoints are.

Well, that's how it seems to me anyway.

Originally Posted by Jamie Whitmarsh

I think that while this thread is ugly in parts, I think it's also beneficial.
First, it might bring in others who hate pop music, and while SOME members are unable to listen to the logic and reasoning behind why all music has merit, some others may not be so pigheaded.
Second, this (among several other threads of equal ugliness) helps teach one how NOT to discuss differing opinions on the internet. It helps one further define what they're trying to say. It seems that 90% of the time, most disagreements are a matter of vernacular choice. If one says "All music has this element" you're going to get ripped. However, if you say "It seems to me that all music has this element" you're still going to get ripped, but in a more respectful manner. Through all the pain and anger that these threads cause, composers grow, both by being exposed to others' viewpoints and by further understanding of what their own viewpoints are.

Well, that's how it seems to me anyway.

well there's one thing all music has in common: the composer called it music. and if they didn't call it music, we have no right to either.

Well, I disagree. Music is something melodic. (be it tonal or otherwise)

I wont call noise music, music. Its just noise.


And Pop music is for the crowd. as opposed to ART music where we people here mostly compose. But It can be said some art music pieces are also unbashingly crowd pleasing.

Look to Handel's Hallelujah.

Originally Posted by david ckwee

Well, I disagree. Music is something melodic. (be it tonal or otherwise)

I wont call noise music, music. Its just noise.


And Pop music is for the crowd. as opposed to ART music where we people here mostly compose. But It can be said some art music pieces are also unbashingly crowd pleasing.

Look to Handel's Hallelujah.

I guess African Drum Circles aren't music.

Of course-They arent.

I think many of your will disagree to this but heck, Ill stick to my guns.

Originally Posted by david ckwee

Of course-They arent.

I think many of your will disagree to this but heck, Ill stick to my guns.

So something has to have a recognizable melody to be considered music?

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Unless you give me some well thought out reason as to why this is, or retract that statement, I will unfortunately have to disregard your opinion on anything from now on.