Italian Concerto (with German counterpoint)

Originally Posted by Zetetic

Were you honestly expecting, having posting a relatively unremarkable, unfinished composition on a children's website, to receive universally positive, university-level criticism?

I'd like to see some adult websites.

Originally Posted by cygnusdei

I'd like to see some adult websites.

I think you better take that desire of yours to the search engines. HAHAHA.

I wonder what sort of responses this music would return if posted as a video on an adult website. . . . . I'm sure there are countless innuendi relating to harpsichords!

Maybe not.

Originally Posted by Zetetic

I wonder what sort of responses this music would return if posted as a video on an adult website. . . . . I'm sure there are countless innuendi relating to harpsichords!

Maybe not.

No, I don't think so....

Originally Posted by PraeludiumUndFuge

This is as of yet unfinished, but here it is, my first foray into a conventional chamber work; already approved by a member of Vox Saeculorum (so spare the plebian remarks). As the title describes it is an allegro movement in the Italian style, arranged for keyboard (alternating solo and tutti accordingly). Needs some corrections in areas, but here it is. It is presented as a video rendition of the keyboard emulator used to play it. Enjoy.

YouTube - Allegro nach Italianisches Art

Hello PraeludiumUndFuge, I had thought you had left the forum forever; it's good to see you're still making Baroque music. As you know (and I repeat this to everyone far too much), the early Baroque is more of my thing than the late, but nevertheless I liked the overall sound, the theme and the sequences. I can't really criticize; clearly you have grown much as a composer.

I see you've discovered that Czech harpsichord... unlike you I've been unwilling to endure Hauptwerk's chime thing on the unregistered version.... I am using the Blanchet harpsichord which works fine with MyOrgan, but it lacks the 4' stop. My own harpsichord is a 2x8' + 4', so I appreciate how much having three stops increases the possibilities.

Any chance you will be posting a score? I would love to play this myself. And by the way, J. Lee Graham on this forum is also a member of Vox Saeculorum. Are you planning on joining them? It's good to see more people on this forum interested in historical styles.

Originally Posted by Zetetic

On the downside, I really didn't like the chords being thumped every other bar, particularly when in the lower register. This was just taste - there's nothing stylistically inappropriate, other than in the idiom such crashes would usually be introduced, then hidden until the climax of a very obvious return to the tonic (or perhaps related minor). Use the crashes sparingly is my advice.

From what I understand this rendition is probably made from a MIDI file or notation program linked to the sampler. I think that of all instruments, the harpsichord suffers the most from the MIDI treatment. Harpsichordists are constantly working with subtle articulations and arpeggiations; these large block chords sound very percussive in MIDI but they become varied and exciting when a real harpsichordist tackles them. And we can't let MIDI or Finale's failings affect our compositions!

But of course you might just not like the block chord approach. It was fairly common in that fringe of very late harpsichord music meant to emulate the sounds of the concerto. It isn't particularly idiomatic to the harpsichord, but like I said, perhaps it's just the MIDI performance that bothers you. You might want to try hearing a very good harpsichordist's interpretations of Scarlatti or Rameau, both very late Baroque composers who wrote the thumping chords.

Suberb! good to hear more of the old music!

Originally Posted by PraeludiumUndFuge

I am perfectly aware of the weaknesses in the work and it's overall weaknesses. However, like I said, you lot should really spare your plebian opinions. You lot are the kind of people who could have a lesser known Bach or Haendel work posted in front of you, and still throw the same kind of peon remarks at it. Zetetic's ramblings are legendary.

You know, even the most conservative composers of their eras still sounded like contemporary in their days (Brahms and Barber two good examples.) And the thing is, if Brahms HAD written a piece in a Baroque, you can damn well be sure it would have still sounded like Brahms. Why are you writing in a 350 year old style? Honestly? Neo-Baroque music can work QUITE well (See "Prelude, Arioso, and Fugue" by Honegger) but you don't just ignore musical evolution. That is the most outright lazy and PLEBEIAN (note there are TWO E's, Smart Guy) thing that a composer could do. You are just proving that you have no originality, not a creative bone in your body, I'm glad you can copy exactly what the masters 350-400 years ago did without adding any of your own voice at all. Please get off my board you pretentious dullard.

Originally Posted by gms5287

Please get off my board you pretentious dullard.

Not to worry, he seem to already be banned.

It's a shame really. Pleasant music, obnoxious composer. Nothing new there.

Originally Posted by PraeludiumUndFuge

I am perfectly aware of the weaknesses in the work and it's overall weaknesses. However, like I said, you lot should really spare your plebian opinions. You lot are the kind of people who could have a lesser known Bach or Haendel work posted in front of you, and still throw the same kind of peon remarks at it. Zetetic's ramblings are legendary.

I can at least say this...

Bach and Handel will go down in history as two of the greatest baroque composers.

You... not so much. You'll probably not be remembered for anything, other than being an ass who posted imitative, boring works in an online forum, but who had no real successes in the outside world.

You have no hope for a successful career in baroque composition. Especially since you can only work through imitation... not through new theory.

Maybe you'd do well as a politician... yeah... an ignorant asshole who simply copies somebody else's ideas and writes them off as their own! Sounds perfect for you!

This may be the first member EVER on YC that I'm glad to see has been banned.