January 2008 Monthly Competition Rules/Sign-Up Thread.

jujimufu · #41 (**permalink**) Jan 4 2008, 2:32 AM

or we can ask for all of the participants to vote for their piece - that would be equally effective and more trustworthy, as one will be forced to vote for their piece (as opposed to hoping they won't vote for their own piece).

Tigger · #42 (**permalink**) Jan 4 2008, 2:48 AM

Or how about the participants don't vote at all

....I'm pretty sure there's a way of seeing who voted...

jujimufu · #43 (**permalink**) Jan 5 2008, 4:32 AM

yes, but what if one participant votes, even accidentally? We'll either have to remove a vote from that selection, or the other participants would have to vote as well, whereas if everyone voted for their piece, all entries would automatically get +1, so the differences between the entries would be equal, and I don't think anyone would vote for a piece other than theirs, unless they don't want their piece to be in an equal state with the other pieces.

Saiming · #44 (**permalink**) Jan 5 2008, 5:28 AM

But if you are allowed to vote, but not on your piece. How about that?

Tigger · #45 (**permalink**) Jan 5 2008, 12:34 PM

But what if you (honestly) thought yours was the best

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nah, I actually think that's a pretty good idea....everyone votes on which piece they like best, besides their own....and whoever wins gets a couple more points in the judging thing. Nothing too big, but enough so that it factors in the decision of the people. Though, truthfully, I think we could avoid any confusion and stuff if we just didn't have the participants vote (because what composition contest does that, anyway

? None that I've heard of...)

oingo86 · #46 (**permalink**) Jan 5 2008, 1:08 PM

That's all too complicated. It's going to be fair as long as noone makes new screennames to vote on their piece. But this is pretty obvious to anyone looking at who voted - someone who just joined and has no posts is obviously a fake. It's then up to the moderators to check IP addresses to see who they need to disqualify. I've ran many competitions in the past, and just letting anyone vote, including the participants voting for themselves (which is 100% fair), is fine enough and not complicated at all.

As for anonymity, it really ends up not being as big a deal as you think. Besides, even if some people here are more known than others, people who sign up as judges usually know to be fair and honest anyway. But it's not a big deal.

A point system, with a number correlating to how many public votes a piece got, added to how many points a piece got from the judges, would be good.

EnigmusJ4 · #47 (**permalink**) Jan 5 2008, 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdi_Lver

Though, truthfully, I think we could avoid any confusion and stuff if we just didn't have the participants vote (because what composition contest does that, anyway

? None that I've heard of...)

Conceptual Music Competition and Thematic Original Music Competitions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conceptual Music Competition Voting Rules

Any participant in the competition can vote, but not for their own pieces. However, in an effort to encourage voting among participants, any participant who votes will have 2 points added to their voting score.

Dev · #48 (**permalink**) Jan 5 2008, 1:55 PM

I like just letting participants vote like anyone else - if they like their piece the best, they vote on it. Most of the contestants will do just that, leveling the playing field and not affecting the results as much. No problem.