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Old Apr 4 2008, 4:21 AM

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LOL counterpoint

So I woke up today and felt fuguey. After about an hour of wanking with tritone on my keyboard I felt like writing a fugue. So I sat down and this thing happened. I did not spend a lot of time on it, I was more or less just experimenting but I kinda like it now. So some vaguely constructive criticism regarding how I can make my music less appalling would be nice. And disregard the ending: it had nothing to do with experimenting with fugues, it was caffeine induced random wankery because I like being gratuitously epic.

Oh, and feel free to rip it to pieces: I'd rather you be blunt and help me learn than hear any BS. If you actually like it, well HOT DAMN. Otherwise, I'm no stranger to being mediocre.
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Old Apr 4 2008, 8:52 AM

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haha firstly, i like you. haha, you are one of the few people on this website that actually made me smile haha. "After an hour of wanking with tritone" hahaha. So funny.

The fugue sounds good...except I wouldnt really call it one...as the counterpoint (though explored in some cases) is rather non-existant. It just sounds like a...well a piece for piano. Even more so, it is really a two-part invention...yes, there may have been a third voice in there for a second, but its really just a constant moving piece of music. I like it...but its not a fugue in my case. Im not counterpoint expert so please, YC members, feel free to contradict me if it is indeed a fugue.

Meh, keep up with the work though...Wank with a sonata...you could cum (pun) up with a great piece.
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Old Apr 4 2008, 1:55 PM

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haha firstly, i like you. haha, you are one of the few people on this website that actually made me smile haha. "After an hour of wanking with tritone" hahaha. So funny.
Splendid! A lot of people are appalled at my self-depreciative humour and blatant lack of being-serious.

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The fugue sounds good...except I wouldnt really call it one...as the counterpoint (though explored in some cases) is rather non-existant. It just sounds like a...well a piece for piano. Even more so, it is really a two-part invention...yes, there may have been a third voice in there for a second, but its really just a constant moving piece of music. I like it...but its not a fugue in my case. Im not counterpoint expert so please, YC members, feel free to contradict me if it is indeed a fugue.

Meh, keep up with the work though...Wank with a sonata...you could cum (pun) up with a great piece.
It is indeed not a "fugue." Just random experimentation with no clear goal in mind. But I do not understand how you are disqualifying the counterpoint. I'm a musical idiot so any clarification would be nice.

I tried to write a sonata once but that takes... FORETHOUGHT! D:
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The piece *is* contrapuntal, but it certainly isn't a fugue (unless it's some sort of incredibly advanced augmentation fugue or likewise ... which I somehow doubt). Having said this, it's perfectly acceptable to write a 2-voice fugue, despite what's been said. I'd be interested to hear what Johnny Fawkes thought he was trying to do in writing this piece. I didn't enjoy it a great deal, since there were too many intervals that sounded unnecessarily dissonant.
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The piece *is* contrapuntal, but it certainly isn't a fugue (unless it's some sort of incredibly advanced augmentation fugue or likewise ... which I somehow doubt). Having said this, it's perfectly acceptable to write a 2-voice fugue, despite what's been said. I'd be interested to hear what Johnny Fawkes thought he was trying to do in writing this piece. I didn't enjoy it a great deal, since there were too many intervals that sounded unnecessarily dissonant.
2-voice fugue = invention
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Old Apr 4 2008, 3:14 PM

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Not necessarily. The E-minor fugue from Book I of the Well Tempered Clavier is clearly a fugue despite only having two voices, on account of its use of fugal technique and the incorporation of a countersubject. An invention is just an imitative work that explores two-part counterpoint.
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Let's not forget also there's another example of a 2 voice fugue in the art of the fugue~
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Old Apr 4 2008, 6:59 PM

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...I'd be interested to hear what Johnny Fawkes thought he was trying to do in writing this piece...
Something relevant to absolutely nothing. I just sat down and cranked it out just to experiment. It was certainly fugue-inspired but there was no clear goal I had, no form I wanted it to take. I just wrote things down as they came to me.

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...I didn't enjoy it a great deal, since there were too many intervals that sounded unnecessarily dissonant.
That indeed is my fatal vice. (musically speaking.)
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That indeed is my fatal vice
Even if it is, I don't think you should force yourself avoid it consciously.
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Old Apr 4 2008, 9:09 PM

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Even if it is, I don't think you should force yourself avoid it consciously.
I think that's why I've started to abuse tritone, I'm just a dissonance-monger. I'm not going to just change my style but I'll have to be wary of what I'm doing. I'm a bit more careful in my more important compositions but when I'm just writing stuff down as it comes, it's always just odd and gratuitously dissonant.
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