Minimalism

Originally Posted by SSC

The hell I will, I did say you made a good point about the movie thing, I hadn't thought about it before. I DID clearly read what you wrote.

Don't assume I mean anything bad, disrespectful, etc, with the "blah blah blah" comment, because I don't. Might I add, that if I wanted to imply that what you say has no value, I'd actually say it outright. I don't like beating around the bush nor am I too good with subtleties. While I have a drastically (fistfight worthy) different opinions than yours (music and otherwise), and all that jazz, I think I can do better than something like that if I really wanted to say your opinion has no value. PLUS, I'd know better than to drag it into a thread that has ALREADY derailed spectacularly.

I'm sorry, where I come from replacing someone else's words with "blah, blah" is quite an insult.
I'm sorry if I misinterpreted what you wrote.

In case you misunderstood what I wrote, in turn, I have no problem with people having different conceptions of what is good in music.

As for "fistfight worthy", well, I don't believe anything is worthy of that. Violence, or the threat there of, is rarely a worthwhile option for resolving differences of opinion... particularly when they're nothing more than differences in taste and personal preference.

Originally Posted by QcCowboy

I'm sorry, where I come from replacing someone else's words with "blah, blah" is quite an insult.
I'm sorry if I misinterpreted what you wrote.

In case you misunderstood what I wrote, in turn, I have no problem with people having different conceptions of what is good in music.

As for "fistfight worthy", well, I don't believe anything is worthy of that. Violence, or the threat there of, is rarely a worthwhile option for resolving differences of opinion... particularly when they're nothing more than differences in taste and personal preference.

Well I can understand why you'd think it's an insult, so maybe I should've clarified that too in the warning I wrote about my rant. In either case, I understood what you were saying, and I really do think that movies have been a great way for people to "get to know" a lot of modern music by virtue of having ...the actual movie, play into the context where sound sorta works in ways they can relate to. I guess. But maybe the reason people later buy the soundtrack (Encounters, the shining, etc) is because of the movie and the whole "experience", rather than purely the music.

And, I don't really like violence. I think it's entirely unnecessary, which I hope goes without saying. I just used the term for emphasis.

Originally Posted by SSC

But maybe the reason people later buy the soundtrack (Encounters, the shining, etc) is because of the movie and the whole "experience", rather than purely the music.

Well, many people I've known who were soundtrack afficionados actually developed quite a keen sense of appreciation for the music completely divorced from its cinematic companion.

So maybe there IS hope for the capacity of the "untrained" listener to appreciate something that involves more than just I-IV-V (and the occassional secondary dominant).

The untrained listener can often know what they like, even if they don't know why. The more trained people are, the more divergent they become, either towards liking more stuff, or liking more specific stuff.
That's what I've found anyway.