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Old Jun 18 2008, 9:01 PM

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Judging by my post length I guess I'm dumb
Actually, that's judging by your post quality.


Oh snap!

Just kidding.
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Old Jun 18 2008, 11:26 PM

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Ooo. IPA. When did you learn about that?
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Old Jun 19 2008, 11:21 AM

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After studying patterns of female and male communication, linguists say that women on the net post short things and apologize for the length. Men will post insanely long diatribes and not apologize at all. Another thing they say is that people with greater intelligence also make longer posts.
Logical fallacy, ad hoc - if intelligent men write longer posts, then writing longer posts won't necessarily mean you're an intelligent man.

Generally, your attitude is a bit arrogant, as if you are the only intelligent and bright enough person who can claim the understanding and revelation of the secrets between language and music. But I bet you haven't heard of Diana Deutsch, who has got a few more degrees behind her name and has done a number of in-depth studies in aural perception (and illusions), language and music, perfect pitch etc. And guess what: she's not the only one either!

So I'd much rather spend my time and energy reading something by her, than something by you, especially when you have such an arrogant behaviour.
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Old Jun 19 2008, 1:12 PM

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Argue argue bicker bicker. That's some really interesting stuff in that post up there and that's all you guys can do is bicker over hardly-related nonsense. It is going nowhere.

So has everybody ever tried this with a language other than English?
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Like I stated before, it isn't language relevant. You'll find trivial cases and that is it. You have to use IPA if you expect any reasonable interesting findings.
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Old Jun 20 2008, 4:22 PM

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You need to advance your knowledge of group theory before much of this begins to make sense. Some groups you consider are rather monotonic and thusly the results you "derived" are trivial.

Update: That's to be expected. You relate and mistook a concept to be one thing when in reality should've been something else. I suggest focusing on the IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) rather than the actually letter. There exist a better and more pronounced relationship between the sounds we make using language and music itself. I think that is what "scientist" mostly were referring to.
This is part of the reason for why I asked the question that I asked. I was certainly hoping for a nice conversation to occur but it hasn't....oh well on to other issues
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Old Jun 20 2008, 5:04 PM

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This is part of the reason for why I asked the question that I asked. I was certainly hoping for a nice conversation to occur but it hasn't....oh well on to other issues
Of course a nice conservation didn't occur. It's hard to read and at the end, you said nothing special. The topic itself is interesting one. In fact, I know someone who did their PhD on the relationship between phonetic in a culture and the music they prefer. The analysis on it requires a damn good background in group theory. Perhaps one that surprises mine.

What you wrote are trivial results. Which is to say, no shit.

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But, if you’re on G then you can either go to the A above or the F below. However, it’s best not to decide just yet and keep track of where each line goes because there may be some situation where one of the lines terminates because there is an interval combination that won’t work for that line such as if you’re on D and the interval you should travel from there is a Major third. There is no diatonic major third from D (If you’re in C Major) so then you’d have to abandon that line.
Combinatorial analysis 101. Formally stated: Within a field F whose is defined in R^n where the set U, which denotes the universal set, contains F and F contains D, where D is the subset under restriction Y, there exist one path of functionality if and only if restriction Y is also under another restriction x.

Fuck, I forgot to sign onto my name this is DOFTS
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There are inherently unavoidable problems with these methods though that we need to be aware of.
Use arbitrary variables saying they can be defined on any plane. Then define the Set to be whatever case you are using. From there, expand, expand expand until finally you generalized the theorem.
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Old Jun 21 2008, 6:15 AM

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So Jubilee is DOFTS? I don't get it.
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