Oboe

To be able to play high, you must be excellent at everything else. It doesn't add up.

But it does. You'd understand it if you played. To be able to play the full range requires a high level of off-the-bat skill.

The fact still stands that you don't really want the oboe played higher than that high F. A good comparison would be trumpet players. A trumpet CAN go as high as it wants, but it starts losing practicality around high E's, at least in the classical world. Jazz is a whole different story, but I'm not gonna go there. I agree that a discussion of range is the way to go, just setting a range is misleading
On another note, I knew of an professional oboe player who was teaching his students about hitting triple high G's. He literally had his students bite the reed to get the notes out. Dogs all around the world went deaf.

I can't imagine that having any musical value - surely it was used as a teaching method, teaching certain awarenesses and the like and possibly a more stable embourchure?

Originally Posted by oboeducky

On the oboe, range *IS* an indicator of talent, and a major one at that. I wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise.

You don't have to be all cocky about it. I don't think it is as much. I feel its more your ability to make the instrument sound good, and playing correctly.

I've done a major revamp of the Oboe article to match the format of the previously edited Flute article. I've also added additional illustrations.

Hmm... I don't even really need to look at these to know you did a fantastical job, but I did anyways.

It's oboe d'amore, isn't it? You put d'amoré. I think you are mixing the French and Italian languages a tad. I won't change it myself, though you might no better than I.

And... wouldn't you think it logical to build a much larger article on the English horn and make it a seperate article? This could be linked to in the oboe article.

I"ll have to check my sources, I could swear there was an accent on that final "e". Hrm.

I could be persuaded either way regarding a separate English Horn article, but I think that that would then force a separate article for each of the common auxiliary instruments... i.e., piccolo, Eb clarinet, bass clarinet, contrabassoon. I'm thinking it would be easier just to expand what is in the main instrument article instead.

Originally Posted by A Forgotten Legend

You don't have to be all cocky about it. I don't think it is as much. I feel its more your ability to make the instrument sound good, and playing correctly.

well obviously that comes first, but being able to hit low Bb and double high b on the same reed and still sounding good is not something any beginner would even attempt.

and just because pros can reach that high doesn't mean they will bother on any regular basis.


The new charts are great.