Obscene Obsession for Full Symphonic Orchestra

What can I say? I expected nothing less from Nikolas! Yet, somehow, this lacked the sophisticated beauty of works like "continuity" and "exeliksis" as well as the soundtrack-ish beauty of your video game music. Herein can surely be found a lot of the seeds from which blossomed into your later work...

Originally Posted by jhmusicman12

This is the first time I've posted in a long time, but I'm listening to this right now and I think it is badass. Who cares about melody when the textures are so cool? I'm not a huge fan of classical music (especially when it's really dull like that one guy who "corrected" a piece I wrote because God hates parallel fifths but that is neither here nor there.) This piece is awesome. Love the builds.

Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed my music! (Who on earth told you that God hates parallel fifths? brrrrrrrrrrrrr)

Originally Posted by Manos

What can I say? I expected nothing less from Nikolas! Yet, somehow, this lacked the sophisticated beauty of works like "continuity" and "exeliksis" as well as the soundtrack-ish beauty of your video game music. Herein can surely be found a lot of the seeds from which blossomed into your later work...

cheers Mano,

Just note that Continuity was written a couple of years before OO. Also keep in mind that this one is very hard/raugh/edgy in all senses... I will share some things with you later on

Warning: Do not listen to this while under the influence of marijuana.

The first 2 minutes it got my attention, and it was interesting for me, but as time went on I was expecting something to happen, something that will free my ears from the constant pressure of the same sustained sounds. It came to a point of actual irritation and I had to stop listening to it.

Is it an interesting piece?

Yes

Is it enjoyable?

Not for me.

Is it annoying?

For me? You bet.

Sorry for been so blunt, but this is how I felt about the piece.

I would suggest you should get rid of the complexities in the score, it creates un necessary stress and confusion. Say what you want with your music directly without going into complexities. Where was the musical line , the theme? I didn’t find any.

Originally Posted by Fisherdec

Warning: Do not listen to this while under the influence of marijuana.

This is an... interesting comment. Probably glad that my music works hand in hand with marijuana I guess...

Saul, thanks for posting first of all.

Originally Posted by Saulsmusic

The first 2 minutes it got my attention, and it was interesting for me, but as time went on I was expecting something to happen, something that will free my ears from the constant pressure of the same sustained sounds. It came to a point of actual irritation and I had to stop listening to it.

Did you actually listen to the whole track or not? Maybe listening to the whole track could resolve the tention?

Is it an interesting piece?

Yes

Thanks

Is it enjoyable?

Not for me.

Is it annoying?

For me? You bet.

I'm not exactly surpirsed at that, but it's your POV so it's perfectl acceptable here. If you could define a bit better what annoyed you (after you listened to the whole track, unless you have and I misunderstood the first part of your post somehow)

Sorry for been so blunt, but this is how I felt about the piece.

No problem. I can take bluntness, not that I understand, but I sure get what you mean, so cheers.

I would suggest you should get rid of the complexities in the score, it creates un necessary stress and confusion. Say what you want with your music directly without going into complexities. Where was the musical line , the theme? I didn’t find any.

Again I will have to ask.

Are you actually reffering to the score, as in the pdf, that should be cleaner, cause if so I totally agree with youh. If you are talking about the music, I will certainly have to dissagree with you all the way.

i. I expressed exactly what I wanted with that music, and probably for the firs time...
ii. Stress and confusion is not always un necessary. Ever considered that the tention will be resolved and there will be a closure later on? Or that the artist intended to create tention? After all music is not always "happy, nice, consonant music", certainly not for me.

ii. Music line, the theme: There wasn't one at the traditional sense of the term. IF you are looking for melodies in half of my works, you'll find none. If you care to listen what kind of melodies I can come up with, by all means visit the following two links, listen and feedback me about melody there. but here, the intention was not to create a "melody"...

A Tale Of Two Kingdoms (computer game music), Epic...

and

Thale Cres Suite

Looking forward to your reply, Saul.

Well Nick,

I was referring to the complexities in the sound, and they are connected to the score, for how a complex sound can be created without a complex score?

I know that music is not always happy nice and enjoyable...or beautiful...

But that is what I’m looking for when listening to music, I want it to be nice, pleasant and enjoyable...While listening to your piece , I didn’t find these qualities. But I did find the opposite effects which were, irritation, stress on the ear , and not pleasure. Now why should I like a piece of music that not only doesn’t give me what I look for but gives me the exact opposite?

You might say:

"Hey Saul, music is aint always about pleasure and nice"...

What is it then meant to be ? Irritation? Discomfort ? Annoyance and stress?

You might find these negative qualities as interesting or sophisticated and in some way even intriguing,, but I don’t feel this way.

I'll listen to these other works later on...

Cheers,

Saul

What is it then meant to be ? Irritation? Discomfort ? Annoyance and stress?

It can be these things, but as Nikola said, it should have a nice resolution. From what I have heard of your music Saul, is that yes, you may have some nice melodies but there is not much tension and resolution which can make it quite monotonous.

Anyway, I loved this piece, Nikola. Not much that I can criticise...

Cheers for coming back. do check the other thread I pointed out, you might be pleasently surpirsed (especially with Thale Cres actually).

I don't mind at all that you didn't like the music (my music), and my post wasn't about that. I'm not here to force anyone into liking my music at all. If you are looking for the qualities you mention, you won't find them in this track, that's for sure. The complexities of the sound (and thus to the score, but I'm not talking about the difficulty of reading the score), are a part of the music in this case, as the orchestration plays a vital role in this track.

I wasn't looking to cause irritation, or discomfort, or annoyance. Maybe stress but look at the tittle again and take a guess: "Obscene Obsession". I sure hope that you were not hoping for a nice melody from music named "Obscene Obsession".

By all means, I don't mind that you didn't like it. Just note that the negative qualities, as you mention are not coming from the music, alone, but in connection to the listener. Other people don't find these qualities you mention at all.

PS. Still don't know if you actually heard the whole piece or not. If not, I would suggest listening to the whole thing, as it does change over time, and it could be worht the ten minutes. But by all means, make up your mind all the way. as I said, your POV, your ears, your style, not a problem with that at all

Originally Posted by bob_the_sane

Anyway, I loved this piece, Nikola. Not much that I can criticise...

Hey! Thanks!

(no need for any comparison here, or critic of anyones music, right? )