Orchestral Sketches

An attempt in Symphonic writing. Here is a sketch.

(Due to heavy instrumentation, I have provided scores with empty staffs hidden. I have a LOT of instruments now, so open the regular at your own risk, Lol!)

I think that it would be pretty difficult to develop these ideas in my opinion. The entrance of each instrument was pretty effective. This is in E major, right? It is a tough key for Flutes, Oboes, Clarinets, and Bassoons. Also, it is alright to have a short 30 sec intro, but then (especially if you are writing a classical symphony) you must state the theme. Preferably very loudly.

The orchestration was ok. During the middle of the clip, from :21 to :30, the violins were not very clearly heard and their melody wasn't well defined. It looks like you crossed lines between the two, which blocks out the counterpoint. To change this, either increase the octave between them or change the melody.

This could work... but mabye as a second mov.

Thanks for commenting. I agree with what you said. I shall develop it eventually.

I think that it would be pretty difficult to develop these ideas in my opinion. The entrance of each instrument was pretty effective. This is in E major, right? It is a tough key for Flutes, Oboes, Clarinets, and Bassoons. Also, it is alright to have a short 30 sec intro, but then (especially if you are writing a classical symphony) you must state the theme. Preferably very loudly.

A good composer can develop anything. So what if Jair has a challenge, I'm sure he can pull something off . I like these ideas, Jair! The flowing cello you have there is a good idea, and of course the melodies over it. I think this is very doable. Where I think I would go now is to change up the cello part a little! Change chords! (for the love of God...what?). I think you can make a nice little movement out of this (whether this be a 2nd movement as maelstrom suggestion or the introduction of a first movement, or just a plain old first movement). I would, however, complain about the harmony, about m. 8 and on. The tones are clashing in the viola and cello, and in measure 11, the 2nd violin moves up to the same note the 1st violin is on. This is normally not considered "good" harmony.

Good start!
Nico

The tones are clashing in the viola and cello, and in measure 11, the 2nd violin moves up to the same note the 1st violin is on. This is normally not considered "good" harmony.

That's standard part writing, this is orchestral writing - it doesn't really matter if the 2nd violin and 1st violin are playing in unison.

Thanks again for the reviews guys.

!Important Update! The score, midi, and pdf have been updated.

I have developed the themes further.

That's standard part writing, this is orchestral writing - it doesn't really matter if the 2nd violin and 1st violin are playing in unison.

It's considered bad counterpoint, pardon me.

Originally Posted by Nicola Canzano

It's considered bad counterpoint, pardon me.

There's no counterpoint in it...

Just face it, there's nothing wrong with doubling a note!

Austin, I'm not even getting into this with you. In moving counterpoint and harmony, if you move to a note that already exists within a passage, its normally not considered proper. Don't argue with me. I know you're doing it just to do it.

Except this time, I know I'm right!

First of all, the counterpoint isn't in the second violin, it's in the viola and cello.
Second of all, if it were the counterpoint to the violin (which we will consider the cantus firmus for objectivity's sake), it could simply be a half cadence.
Third of all, orchestral writing differs from standard two voice or four voice part writing rules (while the premise is still the same).