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Old Jul 5 2007, 9:57 AM
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Orchestration: PART 1 (woodwinds) discussion

Working now. I'm wondering, though, how do you create that trill with the b in Finale?
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Old Jul 5 2007, 10:24 AM

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I won't be listening to the examples, just looking at them, so it's not so important....

however, if you have full version finale, it's an articulation, change the font to EngraverfontsExtras (make sure to choose "character" and not "shape") and the 4 trill symbols are there near the top of the list. There's a straight "tr", then trill flat, trill sharp and trill natural. Humanplayback recognizes them for playback, too, which is nice.
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I won't be listening to the examples, just looking at them, so it's not so important....

however, if you have full version finale, it's an articulation, change the font to EngraverfontsExtras (make sure to choose "character" and not "shape") and the 4 trill symbols are there near the top of the list. There's a straight "tr", then trill flat, trill sharp and trill natural. Human playback recognizes them for playback, too, which is nice.
Oh, I won't be bothering with the symbol for this lesson. I just wondered how to create it as I had no idea it was possible in finale! Thanks for the info.

The second exercise is interesting and fun to ponder - working on it now. The complete homework will most likely be posted by tomorrow or the day after.
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Thanks a lot this michel, I'm just reading the lesson now and I'll start the homework as soon as possible.
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DO take your time with these exercises, there's no hurry.
The longer you ponder them and consider possibilities, the better.

Don't try to go out of your way to be creative. That's not what this course is about. You're not trying to out-do each other with the most witty and avant-garde examples possible. I'm looking for good, solid and STANDARD orchestration. We'll get into the "creative" side of it later.
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Would you like us to show exercise 3 in concert pitch?
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it is your choice to write it in concert pitch or transposed.
if you are submitting a MIDI file of the exercise then concert is probably best. (I have no idea if MIDI files handle that sort of information well)
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Heres mine.

Firstly, Thank you to our wonderful teacher.

Secondly, I need to buy an instrumentation book.

Thridly, I did my lesson and had fun with it.
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Old Jul 6 2007, 6:57 PM

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Here are my excercises. I'm not sure I did the second one right though.

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Old Jul 7 2007, 11:36 AM

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Firstly, Thank you to our wonderful teacher.

Secondly, I need to buy an instrumentation book.

Thridly, I did my lesson and had fun with it.
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first of all, thank-YOU.

excellent work.

the oboe part might be a TAD too high for the "weak range". we wouldn't want the oboist's lips to fall off either.

your combo theme is very nice. I believe it would work very well as long as you don't force the oboe to go too high.

your chord, on the other hand... yes it would be shrill... but I'd like something a little more complete.

could you re-set a 3-note chord, major or minor?
and use more than 4 instruments. remember, now we have access to a symphony orchestra (woodwinds listed above).
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