Overture of Many Songs

This copy is for Inv

Mr Duck,

I'm beggining to think I'm the only one around here that doesn't neccesarily appreciate stylistic shifts. But it seems to be a working theme around here. See my recent post to Yqq...

http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/index....st&p= 32597

You've got some dramatic material here. I liked your parallel dissonances a lot. The only criticism that I can really think of is that the shifts from material to material seem strained or sharp at some points. Your orchestration, too, is really good.

I actually dissagree with Christopher in that I think your transitions are fine, even rather smoothly executed. (I can see that he and I are not in agreement on a number of issues, and I'm looking forward to a number of healthy and productive disscussions with him over time). Anyways, I'm more concerned with your destinations. To start with a theme that wouldn't raise an eyebrow 250 years ago, and take it into pan-chromatic powerchord land and back to, well... not where it started, but rather 5 more stylistic vignettes, is to deny the listener a reference point, a home base, a world in which to reside in order to understand. It's all rather schizophrenic and (in my mine at least) belies a composers inability to stick to a style and truly develop and explore within it.

BTW, I mention these thing to both you and Yqq, because you ARE able to write in different styles, and I feel a certain empathy for what I feel was a similar issue in my formative years as a composer.

..FWIW

All that can be refuted in one simple statement. It is an overture meaning to cover many different works within the set. It has to cover the different styles. Also, i'm not all for making traditionalist happy. In fact, I become happier every time someone like you finds no reference points.

It is probably a good thing I wasn't trying to raise en eyebrow back that. I would fail miserably but someone it works in its own way.

Edit:

http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/Classi...trio-t1864.html

http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/...urn-t1740.html

That should make you happy.

I can write strictly and force myself to follow all rules and stay in one style but what is the point? It isn't me and it is lame.

All that can be refuted in one simple statement. It is an overture meaning to cover many different works within the set. It has to cover the different styles. Also, i'm not all for making traditionalist happy. In fact, I become happier every time someone like you finds no reference points.[/b]

Refutation means you stand by your work and find errors in my perceptions, which is perfectly understandable. They are only meant to help and if they are off the mark, though they are somewhat wasted, they should at least serve to secure your positon. Also - It's not about what makes me happy, it's about what makes you happy.

As for reference points, Perhaps I used the wrong word. Tonaly, the music makes perfect sense most of the time. Your tonal centers are related and your execution is fine. I simply find that the artist that mixes pastels, oils, twigs, clay, and then pees on the canvass is saying too much. It's not that I can't understand what they are saying. It's simply a personal preference for the overall texture of a work, and I wish you the best with this one.

http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/Classi...trio-t1864.html

http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/...urn-t1740.html

That should make you happy.

I can write strictly and force myself to follow all rules and stay in one style but what is the point? It isn't me and it is lame.

I guess, if you have come to the conclusion that exploring a style is lame, then don't do it.

Well, of course. I never said exploring a style is lame. I merely said writing in your style is lame. I have done it and plan to never go back to it again.

I don't mind suggestions but i do mind suggestions from people like you. People who want thing sto be subtle and simple and like everything else. Your personal taste is okay but to say the reason i do something is due to my inability pisses me off.

I merely said writing in your style is lame. I have done it and plan to never go back to it again. [/b]

I didn't know you were aware of my style of writing - and BTW, many might take offense if you offered that thier style was lame - with no explanation, technical or otherwise.

I don't mind suggestions but i do mind suggestions from people like you. People who want thing sto be subtle and simple and like everything else. Your personal taste is okay but to say the reason i do something is due to my inability pisses me off.

Mr. Bitter, I admit I suggested that might be the case., as I found it to be with myself. I did not come out and directly say that it applied to you. I'm sorry that I offended you. And I will respect your request and not offer suggestions in the future. Best of luck with your work.

i'm not sure ifyou haven't notice, but i don't care if I offend someone or not. I hate everyone equally.

I find it hard to believe you'd hate your mother as much as George Bush. Anyway, is there a way to get by the registration to download the song? It asks me to register, which I really don't want to do due to a multitude of reasons. Perhaps some nice gentlemen here could put it a non-register uploader.

You'll all be pleased to know this piece has been performed. Of course from here to now, it's been edited and is 5 minutes longer lol.