Piano Sonata... mabye?

Originally Posted by maelstromtempest

Hmmm. So you are saying that my *intended* dissonances in the meno mosso section were not appropriate in context of the entire piece and that I should write it almost entirely consonantly? I can do that.. because the melody is in the treble and the bass is there for movement mainly.

Your "intended dissonances" merely come off as wrong notes, especially the way you wrote the counterpoint with all these accented embellishments, usually in the same area of the measure (repeating), it sticks out of the texture like a soar thumb. I'm not saying write "everything consonantly", you just have to be able to control what you're doing so the ideas come across maturely. It's not even just the dissonances, but the motion of the bass line in the context of the right hand. You might want to even economize to with the left hand, minimize the disjunct motion, just make them chordal skips, or something. If you still want that 8th note continuous motion you can achieve that clean up the sound. I think real question you should ask yourself is "Is this a polyphonic gesture, or simply melody and accompaniment"?

For the last question, I find it hard to compress my ideas onto the piano because I tend to think of many voices being played at once and it is impossible to play with four voices apart by a tenth on a piano. I had to lower the number of voices to write this. I chose to write this because it was what was in my head. It was something that I wanted to do.

That just sounds like a crutch, spend a year writing chamber pieces, I bet you'll be a better composer afterwards and it will probably be much more coherent than any orchestra piece you might attempt to do. I've been there, I know writing for big ensembles is enticing because you stuff like Shosty and Tchaik and you're like, "Ah man I want to write stuff like that", but it really takes a while to REALLY understand how to write for larger ensembles, and a good sense of orchestration and just all those things. Do you listen to chamber music? Have you listened to Beethoven's piano sonatas? Have you studied Bach's keyboard pieces? Especially Bach if you want to achieve these contrapuntal gestures.

Ok, I see what you mean. Yeah, it is meant to be right hand melody and left hand accompaniment. I'll do what you said. I have written mabye... 8 pieces for piano and 3 for chamber ensemble. As of late, I have been writing orchestrally. I do listen and play many beethoven piano sonatas and I have many of his string quartets. I love his 25th sonata.

Originally Posted by maelstromtempest

Ok, I see what you mean. Yeah, it is meant to be right hand melody and left hand accompaniment. I'll do what you said. I have written mabye... 8 pieces for piano and 3 for chamber ensemble. As of late, I have been writing orchestrally. I do listen and play many beethoven piano sonatas and I have many of his string quartets. I love his 25th sonata.

Well if it really is just homophonic music, then I would suggest having chords in the left hand playing 8th notes with the same right hand melody, with the pedal.. Depending on the texture you want you can decide how dense the chords will be.

I changed the meno mosso to be more consonant and to take out uneeded appogiaturas. I have added dynamics to the last section though. The pdf is outdated too.

Very good, Some of the best solo piano music i have heard in this forum!
Keep more movements coming

You are a great composer Mael!

Mael,

im not the best with form, so i cant comment on how it is as a sonata, but i can comment on the music. i listened to the first movement, very beethovenesque, which is a good thing because i love his style. at parts i heard inspirations from moonlight sonata 3rd movement (bar 70-ish to 90-ish...ill dig deeper into the score later), very powerful work here. i thought the second (or was it third) theme was a little weak, maybe vary up the eighth note rhythm a bit. overall though it did have a thrilling impact on me, and it is definitly FAR from bad. when you told me it was bad i was expecting musical garbage all over the place, but it is obviously not the case as you have good sense of structure and music ability. the only things i didnt like were as i said the rhythm of the second theme, and in the beginning measures it seemed a little random, as though you were trying to present all this material at once and then develop it from there. these are just minor issues and like i said im not the best critiquer or the best with sonata form...thats just what i got from it.

cheers mate and keep writing

The same thing happened with the sax concerto, I can't find the pdf or whatever it is to listen. From looking at the comments made, it sounds like it will be great, but I can't find the pdf to listen to it!

The pdf/midi is in the piano/solo keyboard section, because I completed it.