Sibelius Symphony no.7 video finally included of the whole thing

Originally Posted by gianluca

So, your point being what? Some genius composers may be (unjustly) forgotten, whereas some mediocre composers may be remembered.

ah, so... are you, um, immodestly comparing yourself to Sibelius?

Originally Posted by gianluca

and I'm pleased to have read an interview with Boulez in which he expressed the same view

HAHAHA
yes, quote Boulez... the man who said "before me, there was no music"

Originally Posted by gianluca

Furthermore, the one-movement form of Sibelius' Seventh isn't that innovative or unconventional. Something similar had already been done by Schoenberg in his first Chamber Symphony (written in 1906!), which also has several individual sections integrated into a single uninterrupted organic form, and which moreover has a greater structural complexity and a much more advanced harmonic language than Sibelius' 7th.

And simply because you fail to comprehend the complexity of Sibelius' music does not MAKE it in any way less complex. Your superficial assessment of Sibelius is simply more demonstration that your opinions have very little actual value.

But then, Gianluca, your credibility on this forum was shot months ago.

If you don't like tonal music, or neo-tonal music, just stay out of threads dealing with it. You just come acoss as another elitist ass.

Originally Posted by QcCowboy

HAHAHA
yes, quote Boulez... the man who said "before me, there was no music"?

So where and when exactly did Boulez say that? I'd like a reference for that quote. Often, a quote by Boulez may sound rather bizarre when taken out-of-context. And if it was an isolated statement, it was probably only meant jokingly or ironically. Even so, that doesn't mean all his views are not to be taken seriously, for Boulez - whether you like it or not - remains one of the world's greatest musical minds and he sure has highly intelligent thoughts and views on music.

Originally Posted by QcCowboy

And simply because you fail to comprehend the complexity of Sibelius' music does not MAKE it in any way less complex. Your superficial assessment of Sibelius is simply more demonstration that your opinions have very little actual value.

But then, Gianluca, your credibility on this forum was shot months ago.

If you don't like tonal music, or neo-tonal music, just stay out of threads dealing with it. You just come acoss as another elitist ass.

Yeah right, just because I criticize the composer you happen to love, my opinions have little value? And when did I say I didn't like tonal music? I love music from the baroque, classical and romantic periods - which is all tonal music. I only have problems with music that ignores the most important musical innovations of its own time.

Ok, so I have to stay out of threads on composers of which I am critical, eh? Come on, then I could as well say to you: if you are intolerant of other opinions, you'd better stay out of discussion boards altogether.

Finally, Qccowboy, you just come across as another incompetent debater who is intolerant of people disagreeing with him, which doesn't make your credibility any greater than mine. Any time you encounter an opinion you disagree with, you either pass it off as 'superficial' or 'balony' - without being open to further discussion - or you childishly revert to rude personal insults.

Originally Posted by gianluca

Finally, Qccowboy, you just come across as another incompetent debater who is intolerant of people disagreeing with him, which doesn't make your credibility any greater than mine. Any time you encounter an opinion you disagree with, you either pass it off as 'superficial' or 'balony' - without being open to further discussion - or you childishly revert to rude personal insults.

Actually, I'm not the one whose first post (or there abouts) was a condemnation of DelTredici, Corigliano, and company.

The only thing you've done since you've arrived on this forum is criticize and diminish the work of other composers.

Watch who you're accusing. That's an awfully wide paintbrush you're using. One day it's going to come back and slap you in the face.