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Old Jun 8 2008, 2:57 AM

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Song without words for Piano, Flute & Chorus in A major – Cantabile con tenerezza

This actually started out as a fairly standard rock song, with simple chorus and verse chord progressions, a simple intro, and a nice but simple guitar solo. Upon notating it in Finale, I added some creative bass lines to make it more interesting, as well making the vocal melody a little more lyrical.

After unsuccessful attempts at orchestrating it, I decided to try it out with a understated small-scale trio, and it worked quite beautifully.

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Song without words for Piano, Flute & Chorus in A major – Cantabile con tenerezza

Thanks for checking this out. I look forward to receiving your feedback/comments/criticism.
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Old Jun 9 2008, 1:42 PM

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Actually, now that I think about it, "ballade" would probably be a better descriptor than "song without words". Ah well...
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Old Jun 9 2008, 1:51 PM

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So, at the risk of sounding rude or abrupt... are you planning on dumping your entire catalog into the upload forums, or are you actually going to listen or comment on anyone else? So far it looks like the only posts you've made are in your own threads.
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Old Jun 9 2008, 2:10 PM

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Sorry, I used to go to a forum where it was customary to critique a piece and then ask for a "crit for crit" or "c4c" in return, and in that context I'd gladly critique any pieces that people asked me to. Though here it goes a little differently and I see it's not really common to ask for a crit in return, so sorry if I came across as if I wasn't expecting to give feedback on anyone else's work. =/
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Old Jun 11 2008, 5:36 PM

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So what is your organization. I'm guessing, but it seems like -intro A B A B' C D B'' B''' B
Then you end, and I think it's kind of abrupt. Lead us into the ending a little more, because you are going along in your final B, and then suddenly you decided to end. Let the listeners know it's coming, we like predictablility, especially these days. I like the song, very peaceful and relaxing.
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Old Jun 11 2008, 6:42 PM

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I'm curious why you added that "vox" line.
As a choral part, it's (excuse me if this comes across as rude, but...) just one of the most boring vocal lines I've had the displeasure to come across!

I think that if you really want to be writing something "for chorus" you need to take that chorus for what it is - a mixed group of voices, which should be treated as independant lines. You're just treating it like some sort of cheap Casio keyboard part.


The opening flute part is really too low to be really effective with the heavy piano accompaniment. Add to that that the flute and piano are basically doubling each other, it doesn't make for the most interesting music.

I'd avoid those low Bs in the flute part. While flutes with the low B extension are becoming more common, the way you've approached those low notes is not the most effective nor ingratiating use of those low notes. It's what I like to call "flute mime". Some dude standing there holding a flute and pretending to play... 'cause you won't be hearing any of those notes anyways. They're too low.

On to notation: you REALLY need to do something about the rhythmic notation of the piece, which is all over the place. Regardless of what I might think of the music upon hearing it, seeing the score makes me want to give a failing mark to this piece.
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Old Jun 11 2008, 6:53 PM

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^ I added it the "vox" as a subtle accompaniment - not really to take center stage or be the main point of interest. Provided this was titled differently and no score was available, most listeners probably wouldn't notice the chorus until the very last chord.

I suppose I should mention in my threads that my intent has never really been to write for actual musicians, considering I'm just a hobbyist and would never have the chance to write for a real performance. But thanks guys for the comments.
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Old Jun 11 2008, 6:57 PM

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I thought the choral line was just an ambience effect basically. I mean, they are just singing chords, but it's an effect not an active part.
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Old Jun 11 2008, 7:01 PM

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^ Yup.
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Old Jun 11 2008, 8:20 PM

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Then in effect, this is a pop song for piano, with synth-voice background, isn't it.

It's not really "for chorus", which is a quite different category in and of itself.
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