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Old Apr 16 2008, 9:03 PM

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Suite For 2 Trumpets and Harpsichord Aellgro

First movement hope you like it.


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Old Apr 17 2008, 4:10 PM

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Please tell me the "top" trumpet is going to be played on picc. If that wasn't your intention, you better make it so. The "bottom" part is fine. Technically it's all fine though.

You have a good control over the common practice language that I don't normally see on this board, and you actually take it to interesting places as opposed to just saying, "OH MY GOD I'M IN G MAJOR" *pedal G major for 90 bars then one bar of D7*.

All that aside, why write a completely baroque style piece, we are not in 17th century Europe, and I believe I don't wear pantaloons on a consistent basis, or a powdered wig. There are ways to meld the languages and styles of the past AND the present, discovering that will take your music into a fresh and much more interesting direction. Also for the record, as a trumpet player, we have enough "baroque trumpet concertos/suites" to last a lifetime -.- The instrument needs new and better music, the Classicists and Romantics and the *good* 20th century composers really did skip over the brass family quite a bit.
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Old Apr 17 2008, 6:39 PM

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Thanks for reply, yes the "top" trumpet is a piccolo trumpet. Good to hear a comment from a trumpet player. Well im not so in to the new music, im stuck on the old
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The parallel fourths are jarring in the trumpet parts (although not without precedent, I grant), but the remainder sounds perfectly pleasant. Whilst I have no qualms with your writing mock-baroque, I'm not so sure about being taken 'to interesting places' as gms. The movement sounds rather too rooted in G major to be wholly interesting. I appreciate you probably won't want to make any massive alterations to this particular piece, but next time I'd suggest using a few sequences to catapult yourself into new keys.

I think gms' real complaint was that this is not hugely musically interesting as a mock baroque piece. If you're adding to the hundreds of thousands (possibly millions) of pieces that comprise the baroque corpus, I think the next movements need to be more harmonically exciting.
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Old Apr 18 2008, 7:47 AM

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ohh, yes, harmonically exciting, i get that a lot, well what does that mean?
i agree this is not so exiting harmonically but its not boring, the piece goes in tonic, dominant tonic paralell dom. dominant tonic, to get it more exciting, what do i have to do ?

What do i need do change please give me some advice? and this paralell please point them out, and what was there anything that sounded good? nobody has commented what i wanted to have comments on, how is the playing between the trumpets?
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Old Apr 18 2008, 4:16 PM

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ohh, yes, harmonically exciting, i get that a lot, well what does that mean?
i agree this is not so exiting harmonically but its not boring, the piece goes in tonic, dominant tonic paralell dom. dominant tonic, to get it more exciting, what do i have to do ?

What do i need do change please give me some advice? and this paralell please point them out, and what was there anything that sounded good? nobody has commented what i wanted to have comments on, how is the playing between the trumpets?
The harmonic progressions are fine. There's plenty of different colors and movement.

Umm, what pieces have you been listening to as a model? I suggest the Tartini concerto and the Vivaldi double concerto for trumpet
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Old Apr 18 2008, 10:22 PM

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thank you, well i did not listen to anything as a model, this is only my own influnce.
but thanks for the tip
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Old Apr 21 2008, 5:04 PM

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Simen,

I think this movement is excellent. I liked your tasteful modulations and chords. The only thing I would ask more of is dissonance. It seems very consonant. I especially liked the fact that this piece was extremely cohesive, which is something that many pieces lack. It stuck in my mind when I finished listening to it too... Good Job!

EDIT: I think that a prolonged minor key variation of the theme could really bring some needed contrast to the movement.
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Old Apr 21 2008, 5:10 PM

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Old Apr 21 2008, 6:31 PM

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minor key variation...yess...agree

otherwise, ya you already know that i like it

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