Symphony #1498 "Line in Woooooow!"

That thing can be put in FL studio and start making sounds/noises. If I am not wrong are not there softwares that makes 'music' or sounds/noises interpreting an image and the silhouettes?

A, since when has what a machine can do been the definition of music, and B, that's not even the argument at hand.

I have heard of softwares creating 'music', noise or sounds, so an image like that it can be interpreted and make at least sounds produced by a machine. I am not entering and staying in arguments here. And I think the original post is just a silly intend from the kid to have fun or something than to express something musical or Avant-garde. I doubt he put any musical thought there or to accomplish something with it.

Originally Posted by Dev

...sheet music should be instructions that are very apparent and understandable, even if the direction is "be very abstract." This picture simply fails to deliver any intruction.

You're failing to grasp the concept that some musicians do not require instruction. Also, some composers prefer NOT to specify every detail of their music and instead of forcing their music through performers, to extract music from them.

Originally Posted by Dev

...if I gave you a book but instead of english I used, say, pieces of maccaroni, and told you to read it, could you? No, no you could not, because it's maccaroni. However, if, with that book, I somehow conveyed what the maccaroni meant - if it points left it's an E, if it's red it's a Q, etc. - then you could read the book....without the instructions to translate "maccaroni" into "written language," what I've produced is simply a piece of art and nothing more.

Again, some authors may not want their macaroni to translate literally. Perhaps they want YOU to see in the macaroni something personal and creative.

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A BOX! YOU LIVE IN ONE.

Originally Posted by robinjessome

Again, some authors may not want their macaroni to translate literally. Perhaps they want YOU to see in the macaroni something personal and creative.

But that's my point! How can they be considered an author if they expect you to write the book for them?

Originally Posted by Dev

But that's my point! How can they be considered an author if they expect you to write the book for them?

*SIGH*

You're hopeless. Keep trying, though - I'm sure that box has an exit somewhere...

Priceless reply there, rob.

Don't call me ****ing hopeless because you don't agree with me. Seriously, answer my question: If I gave you a "book" that was just a piece of paper with "make up your own story" written on it, would you consider me an author?

Originally Posted by Dev

If I gave you a "book" that was just a piece of paper with "make up your own story" written on it, would you consider me an author?

If YOU did it, no. I suspect you'd do it in a spiteful and malicious manner.

If an honest and creative artist were to do so however, then yes, I would consider them an author.

Daniel and Dev, I agree with both of you that this kind of "score" doesn't consist of instructions. I also agree that it in fact doesn't give more than a vague influence (which may of course turn into a quite directed and strong influence depending on the performer).

I think the fundamental disagreement here is therefore whether a score has to contain clear instructions or whether a musical stimulus is sufficient. At this point it really gets down to definitions and we probably just have to agree to disagree.

However, out of personal interest I'd like to ask this question: Assume that the two lines I posted earlier would have been provided by the composer:
1. Decide on a method to translate a picture (or this picture in particular) into sound.
2. Apply this method to this picture.

In that case the score would in fact consist of very clear instructions (while the musical result would still be extremely open). Would you be willing to accept it as a score in that case?