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Old Jun 1 2008, 10:08 PM

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I composed the first 4 minutes to this piece on Friday (about an hour) and on Saturday (another 3-4 hours). The other part was already composed.

I start a college class tomorrow, so I may be real busy for the next 6 weeks, so I figured I would post this one while I still have time. There are some velocities/attacks that are still off and a few other issues as well, but I will get to them as time permits.

I am curious as to what you think might be a good name for this one.

I am considering

Zero and Other Large Numbers


Any other suggestions or critiques?

here it is

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Old Jun 2 2008, 12:23 AM

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As always Ron your style and orchestration techniques are very unique and pleasing to hear. This was definitely different from a lot of your other works I have listened too, yet it still has that Ron-ish flare always brings me to your music. Very somber and eerie, yet at the same time I sensed an unmatched beauty that is new to me from you. Not saying your other works don't provoke the same emotion, but this one I like because its different and still you are true to your style. Ill comment further on this after a few more listens. Keep up the great work Ron!

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Old Jun 2 2008, 12:44 AM

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Ron -

I like your use of the percussion and the instrumental colors. And it is very atmospheric. As for a name - Midnight Murmurs?

Just some things to think about -

a) I was yearning for much greater motivic development. It was good to hav e it imitated by the winds but the strings carried the motivic material for the most part. One expiriment, have the strings play the chromatic glisses as an accompaniment and develop a new theme derived from you initial motive.

b) because of a) I found it a little monochromatic... this would work somewhat if this were recurring material for a short film or video but standing alone I do not think so.

So, overall you have very good material. Definitely something to go back to and explore the possibilities.

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Old Jun 2 2008, 12:56 AM

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Vince

This one was fast. Sometimes they just come to me and I can get the music to play the why I want. I look forward to any suggestions you might have.

Composerorganist

I have less than 10 hours invested in this as of now. I already have the way to end this (in my head at least): I know it needs to be varied more and I do like your suggestions. I figure another 20-30 hours of work on it and it will be right.

I just don't know when I will get the time to do the work. I have a very busy summer this year and will have to squeeze any composing time away from my sleeping periods.

Thanks for the listen guys and Vince, send me what you got on your comp piece when you get a chance.

Ron
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Hey - I understand your situation entirely! The good thing though about the upcoming situation is you'll probably do well as the time away from composing will your give your subconscious a chance to work out the ideas.

Good luck!
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Old Jun 2 2008, 3:40 PM

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I have a quick lunch break now, and then it is back to the grindstone. I do hope my sub-conscious does some work, because the rest of my brain is working overtime on Math problems.

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Old Jun 2 2008, 3:48 PM

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Hey Ron! Long time no see.
I really loved this new piece. Always an absolute joy to hear your orchestrations and melodies and so on. Like others mentioned it was different from some other pieces but really nice. I thought it was so interesting and yet lovely. I kind of like the title you were thinking of. I think it fits it well if you are smart and can get it haha.
Very nice as always!

(i hate to plug, haha but all ill say is i posted live performances of the string quartet and the new choral piece!)
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Old Jun 4 2008, 9:01 AM

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Thanks..

I'd say more, but I gotta get off to class.

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Old Jun 5 2008, 1:58 AM

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Ron,

I find the mood of this piece bleak, unremitting, unsatified with considerable emotional tension. It is a little different to your last few but very good. There is a lack of development but in a way that suits the mood it creates very well.

It could be music depicting a disaster: a person moves through the site as survivors and bodies are recovered one by one, hoping to see a familiar face amongst the surviviors, dreading to see it amongst the bodies, but not finding it and moving on to look again. The general scene is the widespread disaster with people under stress.

"Zero and Other Large Numbers" has a certain flippancy to it which to me doesn't suit the piece.

A composition well worth perfecting but I wouldn't make any drastic changes, just some refinements.

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Old Jun 6 2008, 7:17 PM

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People back there were right... this is a little bit of a change from most of your ways. A much different character. I agree with Euler on the titling, I was thinking it was very sad and tragic, and Euler's idea on it I think fits perfectly. Not very ... "Zero and Other Large Numbers", but that is a great title for something you do next.

There is so much emotional activity in here that it could work for a silent film score. The one thing it seems to lack is hope. It's more apprehension and tragedy than anything. Not sure I did like the ending as you have it. I've noticed that over time you've been using more and more percussion, especially the keyboard mallet instruments. Some very deep and heavy chords you have going on in the low brass here and there. The gong was a shocker, I didn't expect it at all... and I loved it. I think everything could have been a little louder there, though, especially the strings. I noticed after that there was some oboe playing in some odd scale that seemed almost Arabian in nature, then I realised how prominent that kind of harmony was throughout the piece.

This would actually be a very lovely piece to perform, 'tis a shame you don't have the time to invest on making a tidy score. My luck to you for getting this to go the way you want it. It sounds pretty darn ... depressing now, and I mean that in a good way.

Cheers,

James.
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